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Re: You are banned from the channel #DDO
Reply #75 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:27am
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REAL DPS

over 40k damage (rounding down to 40k to keep the math easy), multiplied by 4 with many shot on the initial slayer adren hit, 12k (x4) on non-slayer adrens, 18 such attacks over 30 seconds, plus the original 160k blast (not counting any other attacks).  that's 864k damage, plus the 160k lead off, and you're looking at 1.024 million damage (one million, twenty four thousand; i know i gotta spell it out, you suck at math) in 30 seconds, not counting all addition attacks between the adren bursts (at most, another 20k?  who cares, keep the change). 

who was talking about a fucking repeater as a DPS weapon?


WTF??
This is why DDO is broken.
1m damage in 30 secs?  If it is even half true (I'm not challenging your maths as I have no basis upon which to do so), then that is why we have bosses as ginormous sacks of HP.
So you have non-optimised toons doing a few thousand damage per minute vs toons doing over 1million per minute.  How do you design and balance for that.

DnD was never intended for players to do 1m damage in 30 secs unless you managed to bring a 1Mt cave in on your enemy's heads.

They haven't just deviated from PnP - there is no PnP left.  Muppets.
  
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Reply #76 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:59am
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more than 1mil, i was rounding down to keep the math simple.    the number of necessary buffs are outragous: full archer's focus (30% damage bonus R.I.P.) full battle meditation for +10 damage, tenser's transformation (+2 damage), divine favor (+4 damage), inflame (+4 damage), +3 damage favored weapons, +3 damage kensai, weapon specialization (feat) +2 damage, child of the flame (feat) + 1 damage, +23 damage from a 56 dex (also provides a no-fail reflex save with epic reflexes feat), crushing wave ruby (highest DPS augment) slotted to the full upgraded Pinion (highest DPS bow), you're also picking up 6d6 sneak attack damage dice (which live on left hand side of the damage equation) and boosting you fvs force line by 3 stacks of smiting. 

why smiting?  remember when the devs "fixed" the bug that allowed your force damage spell modifiers to affect ALL untyped damage, allowing wizards and sorcs to use boulder toss (a big untyped damage source) to go off for insane numbers?  yeah, they fuck that up.  they didn't fix shit, they just stopped force modifiers from affecting boulder toss in particula; it still worked on all other sources of untyped damage, including sneak attack.  of course, nobody fucking noticed because wizes and sorcs weren't running around looking for ways to deal specifically untyped damage...like i was.  so 3 smiting lines give you +6% to untyped damage.  just over 1 point of damage for every 20 you deal doesn't sound like much...until you realize that number gets multiplied by adrenaline!


after all that you have to have technique, son.

there are 3 types of fury shot: baby, standard, and lexington steel.

baby fury shot is what you use when unbrideled fury is not up yet: you just turn on manyshot and let off an adren slayer, and keep pumping out adrenaline dispelling shot arrows and shatermantle arrows (+3[W] each).  slayer arrow has too long a cool down to use it more than once during fury shot, but dispel and shatter arrows are on 3 second cool downs so you can toggle the fuck out of them to keep your damage high until your adrenaline runs out.

standard fury shot is just that, you turn on unbridled fury and many shot, and time your arrows to catch each adrenaline burst.

however, lexington steel is the money shot: you got unbridled fury up AND 9 charges of adrenaline.  so you adren slayer your first shot and keep pumping adrealine arrows with dispel/shatter shot in between the ones you already get from unbrideled fury.  in all, it should be one adren slayer (multiplied over 4 many shot arrows), and 18 adren +3[W] shots (also x4) with all the juiced up buffs at the top of the page, over 30 seconds.

second best DPS in the game btw...

i don't mind letting the cat out of the bag since i'm not playing that shit anymore; fuck 'em.
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Reply #77 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:11am
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that and there's more you can do: however, none of these relatively minor percs make anywhere near the difference the untyped damage/force line thing makes when applied to adren slayer arrows.

it goes without saying that you need to take the imrpoved critical feat, power critical (+2 damage), and overwhelming critica (x1 extra crit damage)l; right?  you're also using the tailwind twist from fatesinger for +3 damage (the only competence bonus in the game that stacks), and the critical damage twist from legendary dreadnaught (+6 damage).

getting the picture yet on what REAL DPS means?
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Reply #78 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:20am
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since some people still rely on it, i won't describe this one, but there's a bug where you can get invisibility to stick even if you attack, open chests, etc; it will only disappear when you hit loading screens within a quest.  so ideally, you wanna run around invis, displaced, and tensered 24/7.
  
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Reply #79 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:26am
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Re: You are banned from the channel #DDO
Reply #80 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 10:24am
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Ok, 1 Millionish damage in 30 seconds.

Now you really have me wondering why you were so fucking butt hurt about a 30% loss in DPS.  Is 700Kish not enough for you?

The game is over, the world has ended, what ever will you do to hurt fucking Kobolds now?!
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Reply #81 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 10:27am
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 4:27am:
REAL DPS

over 40k damage (rounding down to 40k to keep the math easy), multiplied by 4 with many shot on the initial slayer adren hit, 12k (x4) on non-slayer adrens, 18 such attacks over 30 seconds, plus the original 160k blast (not counting any other attacks).  that's 864k damage, plus the 160k lead off, and you're looking at 1.024 million damage (one million, twenty four thousand; i know i gotta spell it out, you suck at math) in 30 seconds, not counting all addition attacks between the adren bursts (at most, another 20k?  who cares, keep the change). 

who was talking about a fucking repeater as a DPS weapon?



Ha ha you're so full of poop, and now your getting desperate, what next are you going to tell us you know "exploits"  Grin Grin Grin

Geez this guy is too funny, they always are when their desperate to be taken seriously  Smiley
  
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Reply #82 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 10:50am
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i don't mind letting the cat out of the bag since i'm not playing that shit anymore; fuck 'em.


  
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Reply #83 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 12:09pm
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I forgot combat archery for the extra whatever.  And no, dude, it's not a 30% drop; it's over 44% assuming all things equal...and they're not equal.  word on the street is they're getting rid of slayer arrow completely and instead of a stacking 250 points of damage, it will now deal a fort-save instakill that (obviously) won't work on bosses, and i suspect ee trash.  that's the whole enchilada right there.  between that and narrowing the crit range, fewer arrows on manyshot etc; it's like i'll be doing 300k damage in 30 seconds.  i might as we'll be using a fucking repeater!
  
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Reply #84 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 12:39pm
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 10:50am:
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So butt hurt that he even names his "moves" after a porn star. With all his racist talk I find this hilarious.

[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:59am:
there are 3 types of fury shot: baby, standard, and lexington steel.


Yeap, your totally correct on that... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington_Steele Grin

Keep working at it. One day you might achieve the "Lexington Steel Furyshot".
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Reply #85 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 2:20pm
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I am the originator of the Lexington Steele fury shot: that's what I named it, that's how it's known.
  
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Reply #86 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:37pm
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Galadriel wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 12:39pm:
Keep working at it. One day you might achieve the "Lexington Steel Furyshot".

To be fair he did say we didn't understand real DPS (Ds Per Second).
  
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Reply #87 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:43pm
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 4:27am:
REAL DPS

over 40k damage (rounding down to 40k to keep the math easy), multiplied by 4 with many shot on the initial slayer adren hit, 12k (x4) on non-slayer adrens, 18 such attacks over 30 seconds, plus the original 160k blast (not counting any other attacks).  that's 864k damage, plus the 160k lead off, and you're looking at 1.024 million damage (one million, twenty four thousand; i know i gotta spell it out, you suck at math) in 30 seconds, not counting all addition attacks between the adren bursts (at most, another 20k?  who cares, keep the change). 

who was talking about a fucking repeater as a DPS weapon?



thats not a weapon, though ill bite - Please clearly list every enhancment/all gear. Im not saying your math sucks, im saying it sucks.

[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 8:59am:
more than 1mil, i was rounding down to keep the math simple.    the number of necessary buffs are outragous: full archer's focus (30% damage bonus R.I.P.) full battle meditation for +10 damage, tenser's transformation (+2 damage), divine favor (+4 damage), inflame (+4 damage), +3 damage favored weapons, +3 damage kensai, weapon specialization (feat) +2 damage, child of the flame (feat) + 1 damage, +23 damage from a 56 dex (also provides a no-fail reflex save with epic reflexes feat), crushing wave ruby (highest DPS augment) slotted to the full upgraded Pinion (highest DPS bow), you're also picking up 6d6 sneak attack damage dice (which live on left hand side of the damage equation) and boosting you fvs force line by 3 stacks of smiting. 

why smiting?  remember when the devs "fixed" the bug that allowed your force damage spell modifiers to affect ALL untyped damage, allowing wizards and sorcs to use boulder toss (a big untyped damage source) to go off for insane numbers?  yeah, they fuck that up.  they didn't fix shit, they just stopped force modifiers from affecting boulder toss in particula; it still worked on all other sources of untyped damage, including sneak attack.  of course, nobody fucking noticed because wizes and sorcs weren't running around looking for ways to deal specifically untyped damage...like i was.  so 3 smiting lines give you +6% to untyped damage.  just over 1 point of damage for every 20 you deal doesn't sound like much...until you realize that number gets multiplied by adrenaline!


after all that you have to have technique, son.

there are 3 types of fury shot: baby, standard, and lexington steel.

baby fury shot is what you use when unbrideled fury is not up yet: you just turn on manyshot and let off an adren slayer, and keep pumping out adrenaline dispelling shot arrows and shatermantle arrows (+3[W] each).  slayer arrow has too long a cool down to use it more than once during fury shot, but dispel and shatter arrows are on 3 second cool downs so you can toggle the fuck out of them to keep your damage high until your adrenaline runs out.

standard fury shot is just that, you turn on unbridled fury and many shot, and time your arrows to catch each adrenaline burst.

however, lexington steel is the money shot: you got unbridled fury up AND 9 charges of adrenaline.  so you adren slayer your first shot and keep pumping adrealine arrows with dispel/shatter shot in between the ones you already get from unbrideled fury.  in all, it should be one adren slayer (multiplied over 4 many shot arrows), and 18 adren +3[W] shots (also x4) with all the juiced up buffs at the top of the page, over 30 seconds.

second best DPS in the game btw...

i don't mind letting the cat out of the bag since i'm not playing that shit anymore; fuck 'em.



~Edit~ turned the page and found this, i rescind my earlier comment of no weapon, however i would still like your Class split, enhamcnents, feats, stats (without gear on), ED layout, and gear.. you know, for maths.
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Reply #88 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:02pm
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why, you suck at maths?
  
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Reply #89 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:20pm
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:02pm:
why, you suck at maths?

On the contrary. you my friend suck at math, but putting that aside. Lets settle this once and for all, reveal that "best player/second best dps" hand of cards you got. There are plenty of us here who know how to math, if we all come to the same conclusion as you, it must be right no?


~Edit~ the reason I personally know you suck at math is this - Adrenaline uses have a 5 second cooldown, Unbridled a 3 second. The Unbridled is a guaranteed every 3rd second adrenaline, no question there (which is wierd because that would be a 2 second cooldown, not 3.. but hey its turbine) However the active overload adrenals still require the 5 second wait time BETWEEN use. IE: it takes 6 seconds per use (1 second to consume, 5 seconds wait time on CD, 1 second to use.. etc etc) Which means in 30 seconds, you can use a maximum of 30/6 = 5 charges of adrenal, not 9 like you claim. Furthermore a few of those coincide with Unbridled charges, and they do not stack. So really you can only use 4 adrenals in the 30 seconds (first of the 30 seconds is slayer + adrenal, leaving 29 seconds. 1 second short of the 5th adrenal)
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Reply #90 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:23pm
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that fact that this is news to you, the fact that you're like "what's all this here then" with that silly look all over your Chevy Chase tells me EXACTLY how clueless you are.  the fact that you think a fucking repeater is a DPS weapon, tell me even more....
  
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Reply #91 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:26pm
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:23pm:
that fact that this is news to you, the fact that you're like "what's all this here then" with that silly look all over your Chevy Chase tells me EXACTLY how clueless you are.  the fact that you think a fucking repeater is a DPS weapon, tell me even more....


Fury Monkcher is not news to me, i had one myself for a couple weeks. It wasnt all the hype you make it to be unless manyshot was running. Besides the point however, please read above.
  
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Reply #92 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:27pm
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monk?!  LOL!  you don't have a clue, dude.
  
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Reply #93 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:28pm
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:27pm:
monk?!  LOL!  you don't have a clue, dude.


And yet you are still evading the putting it out there to show you are not some cracked out nigga going through withdrawl. Until then, stop posting ^-^
  
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Reply #94 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:33pm
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yeah, i'm really going to talk basic arithmetic with a fucking cow.
  
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Reply #95 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:34pm
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[] wrote on Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:33pm:
yeah, i'm really going to talk basic arithmetic with a fucking cow.


if its so basic, why do you fail so hard at it?
  
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Reply #96 - Oct 19th, 2015 at 9:37pm
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cows don't understand math, and neither do you.  the failure is not with the quarterback; it's the receiver.
  
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Reply #97 - Oct 20th, 2015 at 2:29am
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Why doesn't this thread have a "YOU HAVE 24 HOURS" threat to have an independent Dropbear to confirm your math rant yet?
  
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Reply #98 - Oct 20th, 2015 at 2:37am
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because we don't have big, black, nigger dicks firmly entrenched far up the nether regions of our asses; makes sense?
  
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Reply #99 - Oct 20th, 2015 at 2:54am
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Durk wrote on Oct 20th, 2015 at 2:29am:
Why doesn't this thread have a "YOU HAVE 24 HOURS" threat to have an independent Dropbear to confirm your math rant yet?


Maybe they forgot i need a Dropbears confirmation on all things :c
  
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