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Reply #25 - Nov 8th, 2015 at 11:16pm
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He said, "La La La I can't hear you"!
  

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Reply #26 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 12:50am
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Meursault wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 7:06pm:
Turdbin paid big bucks to get a consultant to tell them how to maximize money from customers, I'm sure they know how serious this is, though being Turdbin they probably have their fingers in their ears and are saying "La La La I can't hear you".


Jumping Jesus on a Pogostick...

They hired a consultant and they're still this bad a customer interaction?  Shocked

That's both sad and deeply troubling.

To the OP... I have 10 toons on multiple TRs, not one PLIS between them. Grab a Silver Flame token, do three casual runs through Cursed Crypt and make it a ten charge Talisman. I've never needed more for Beholders and its way less of a soul crushing grind.
  

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Reply #27 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 1:37am
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Magestar and JC work fairly well. Which server are you on? Maybe somebody can help you out with one of those or even give you a base PLIS.
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 2:48am
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Metal-Beast wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 12:50am:
To the OP... I have 10 toons on multiple TRs, not one PLIS between them. Grab a Silver Flame token, do three casual runs through Cursed Crypt and make it a ten charge Talisman. I've never needed more for Beholders and its way less of a soul crushing grind.


Eh... as much as I dislike Dreaming Dark by now, I've always hated Necro 3 with a burning passion and don't see myself doing that pack for anything, ever. Thanks for the suggestion though.

The Silver Flame Nugget itself presents itself with a few issues as well:
  • Not sure how it would interact with antimagic, if at all. SF Nugget has "Negative Energy Absorption" rather than "Spell Absorption"; one of the main draws to PLIS is that spell absorption seems to cancel out Antimagic as long as it lasts, though I don't know how Negative Energy Absorp would interact with it, if at all
  • Beholders take out several charges of PLIS at once, so I'd be worried about the 10 charges depleting rather quickly
  • Another minor thing: it's ML 11, and there are at least two quests off the top of my mind that I like to do at level 10 which have beholders: Korromar and Prisoner


I'm also hesitant to rely on Jeweled Cloaks because when I run through Jungles of Khyber on my main, for instance, many times I'm left with 15 or so charges left on my PLIS, and PLIS has 50 charges... I'd be afraid that Jeweled Cloak just wouldn't last.  Undecided

Revaulting wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 10:05pm:
Drop rate was ass. Every third changed that to a guaranteed ioun stone drop rate of at least 33%. Yeah, it's frustrating. You didn't get the one you want. It's still better than before: running the same amount, getting fewer ioun stones, and no PLIS.


My recollection was that Ioun Stones used to have a chance of dropping on 1st and 2nd completions as well. Meaning that you'd overall get more Ioun Stones per 3 completions. Isn't that how it used to be?
  
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Reply #29 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:03am
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I'm also hesitant to rely on Jeweled Cloaks because when I run through Jungles of Khyber on my main, for instance, many times I'm left with 15 or so charges left on my PLIS, and PLIS has 50 charges... I'd be afraid that Jeweled Cloak just wouldn't last.


PLIS takes off one charge per spell level so being hit by a Polar Ray (level 8), your PLIS will drop from  50 to 42. Jeweled Cloak and Magestar will only loose one.

Anti-magic is only one PLIS charge but each eye stalk beam removes anything between 4 and 7 charges. Another option, if you don't want to deal with spell absorption is to wear deathblock and tank all the beams. Works quite well unless you're fighting the Beholder in GoP.
  
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Reply #30 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:19am
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My recollection was that Ioun Stones used to have a chance of dropping on 1st and 2nd completions as well. Meaning that you'd overall get more Ioun Stones per 3 completions. Isn't that how it used to be?

50% chance of an ioun stone in the NPC reward list. 3rd completion, 100%. If it ain't happening that way now, they borked it and don't know it. To get any further than, "Well, it didn't happen for me!" followed by, "Did you scroll down?" and other pithy insults, we'd have to cast a summon Rodrak spell.
  

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Reply #31 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:30am
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Galadriel wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 3:03am:
Works quite well unless you're fighting the Beholder in GoP.


This is the one fight I always want absorption charges for, I tend to go in with silver flame neck, jeweled cloak and magestar, and I still never think it's enough on elite, even with the 16 FvS hireling spamming heal and greater restore on me, and even with all that, I still can't be bothered to farm a PLIS. After farming out a vibrant purple I never want to go near that quest again Grin
  
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Reply #32 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:14am
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Reply #33 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:21am
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totally wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:30am:
This is the one fight I always want absorption charges for, I tend to go in with silver flame neck, jeweled cloak and magestar, and I still never think it's enough on elite, even with the 16 FvS hireling spamming heal and greater restore on me, and even with all that, I still can't be bothered to farm a PLIS. After farming out a vibrant purple I never want to go near that quest again Grin


Someone on the motherboards was saying that the CON damage spam attack is not being blocked by spell absorption?

  
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Reply #34 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:44am
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DropBear wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:21am:
Someone on the motherboards was saying that the CON damage spam attack is not being blocked by spell absorption?


That might be right, I'm always in such a blind panic in that room that I've never really checked!
  
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Reply #35 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:52am
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totally wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:44am:
That might be right, I'm always in such a blind panic in that room that I've never really checked!


Same.  Grin


If it is true, I think it is a bit lame that the devs idea of challenge is a ultra fast spam attack that appears to have no defence.  I think the expected defense is a party and hopefully someone takes one for the team and gets aggro and gets stat damaged to oblivion.

I've got all the usual layers of defense like spell absorption, Deathward and Deathblock and the CON damage still comes thru thick and fast.

My Pally has Unyielding Sovereignty which works once.
I've not done it on EE, but I've got an invis mule falling alongside scroll casting Greater Restoration non-stop.  Seems to work.   Grin
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Reply #36 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:09am
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DropBear wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 6:52am:
I've not done it on EE


I don't think anyone's done it on EE Grin
  
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Reply #37 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:42am
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Hey, it's not as bad as the supercharged Quori Stalkers.
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:00am
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Spell absortion don't block the moronic con damage nor the antmagic field as it used to do.
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Reply #39 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:04am
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did something change radically? i used to get a plis every 3 to 4 hrs about 5 mins per run, a stone every 15 mins 4 stones per hr..ive got about 30 of them

ide get bored and host late night dd farms for hrs ...i could run it 2 mins faster with a party usually   7 mins solo

pot is also one of the best grind balms there is works at monotonus rl jobs/grinds also...
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Reply #40 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:09am
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[] wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 7:09pm:
Those of us employing the Queen's English always use two spaces after a period.   This allows the reading eyes to readily distinguish the spacing between words, and that of sencences.  Yet another indication the "pay4pals" PM was a false photoshoop; but you already knew that.

TLDR lern 2 syntax, faggot!


Why do you use a period then if you're going to put 2 spaces? Just skip the period.

Do you also use inches, feet, ounces and pounds?

Idiot.

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Reply #41 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:11am
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ILoveExploits wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:00am:
Spell absortion don't block the moronic con damage nor the antmagic field as it used to do.


True that.
  
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Reply #42 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:48am
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I don't get why Turbine keeps old grind in the game.  To my thinking, the toughest grind should be the current end game.  The rest should only get easier over time.  I applaud things like:

VON flagging can be done in any order and does not need to be redone.  Same with DQ.  The Litany piece drop rate is increased and available in the slayer rare chests.  Same with Tome and Shield fragments. 

They should periodically lessen the grind on old content.  Making anything from 2011 more difficult to get than it was 2 or 3 years ago is stupid.  They should make it really easy to get ioun stones from DD.  As mentioned in another thread, Dragontouched Armor should be easier to obtain now days.  Seal/Shards should have a barter vendor (like the DQ scrolls vendor).  It is silly that it is harder to make an Epic Marilith Chain than it is make Red/Blue/White/Black dragon armor or ToEE Armor or Thunderforged Armor.
  
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Reply #43 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 8:59am
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I think "Because we can", time constraints and because proving a negative (sales that may happen if they removed it) is difficult so middle management will avoid risk and leave as is.

Not that I disagree, you're on the money there. Make old loot easy, especially any RNG grind.
  
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Reply #44 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:54am
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Revaulting wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 7:42am:
Hey, it's not as bad as the supercharged Quori Stalkers.


No, I LOVE hanging out halfway up a ladder, waiting for my cha to get back up to one so I can get one cleave in before getting hit for another 19.
  

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Starkjade wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:54am:
No, I LOVE hanging out halfway up a ladder, waiting for my cha to get back up to one so I can get one cleave in before getting hit for another 19.


How did you get the ladder to work for you?
  
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Reply #46 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:00am
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[] wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:55am:
How did you get the ladder to work for you?


'Sploits, yo.
  

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Reply #47 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:12am
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DON'T REVEAL IT ON THIS THREAD!  Devs might get wind, PM me with the details.
  
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Reply #48 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:13am
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Look at you, acting like a real person.

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Reply #49 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:21am
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Not a real person, what did you think I was; Chinese?!
  
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