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Tilo
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Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:38pm
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Seems like the best use of Dire Charge is on everyone staying at cap. Every single class should build for it. For example, on a warlock:

60 Charisma, 46 Int PDK/KTA = +17 Stunning DC

LD Tactics Twist from 29/30 Twist points/slot = 6 DC

Stunning Gear ~20 DC

Charisma 25 DC

Past Life Fighter ~3 DC

Base DC 25

Fear Aura/SE Fort Debuff 2-6 DC

Total 98-102 Necro DC on a Warlock About 20 DC higher than Mass Hold. Free.It is also not a spell, so avoids epic resilience 6 save bonus to EE mobs.

Dire Charge > Energy Burst > ES Blast > Es Burst > GG.

To be honest, as soon as I knew it was going to be a helpless manaless short cooldown AoE effect I knew it was going to be the best feat ever, on every single class in the game, and should be built around for every single class that wants to stay at cap.


If only tree form wasn't bugged I would add this into Supreme Cleavage.
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:40pm
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Reply #2 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm
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If you honestly think something as potent as Dire Charge is right now will stay that way, you're clearly fucking retarded, so why bother.   Wink
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm
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Ginger_Walri wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:
If you honestly think something as potent as Dire Charge is right now will stay that way, you're clearly fucking retarded, so why bother.   Wink


This. I can see it being reduced to a shitty 1 min cooldown  Cheesy.
  
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #4 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:56pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:
This. I can see it being reduced to a shitty 1 min cooldown  Cheesy.


Kinda like daunting roar in Draconic. Great CC, terrible cooldown.
  
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #5 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:02pm
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So on my cc warlock I dire charge into the middle of mobs that could squish me like a bug?

Really don't know much about the ability, guess I'll check it out though.  Might be viable. 

As for 76 dc being max, well my warlock has a 75 at level 28.  It'll go higher at 29 and 30.  Also after I lesser or use feat exchanges even more so. 
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #6 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:33pm
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How's this landing in LE raids?   91 necro DC doesn't do shit, what DC of stuns is working?
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:41pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:33pm:
How's this landing in LE raids?   91 necro DC doesn't do shit, what DC of stuns is working?


Spells have -6 DC due to epic resilience on full health mobs.

So I dunno, its just an idea I had. I'm still on heroic completionist track. 2.5 lives to go. A warlock can debuff with fear aura and -4 fort from blast/bursts from SE debuff, so 6 more saves. On top of the 6 DC from not being a spell, would be 105-109 effective necro DC @ 60 charisma (my locks tend to be more focused on con).

I told them it was OP when they asked for feedback and that I was going to get it on everyone. Then they nerfed it. Then they decided to un-nerf it for launch. Go figure.
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Reply #8 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:47pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:33pm:
How's this landing in LE raids?   91 necro DC doesn't do shit, what DC of stuns is working?



I hear that man, in the current environment it's now possible to land somethings with the new feats which is good, but you have to give up just about everything else just to get those numbers.  Before it wasn't possible at all so you didn't gimp yourself to try.

Sometimes it's feels like I'm banging my head against the wall, and I get so giddy when something lands that my buddies tease the hell out of me for claiming.

Not good.

Maybe I should start dire charging too!
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Reply #9 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:53pm
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Maybe I should start dire charging too!


...or getting a life?
  
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #10 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:59pm
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I have no problems in LE quests holding etc with my enchant focused lock.  I do debuff at times. I haven't done raids yet.  Wish the worlds would open.  It's what I was hoping to try.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:43pm
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This AzureWhore cunt is trying hard to have it his way. I wonder whose sock he is.

Bleackheartox ???
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #12 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:50pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Are you related to blackheartox Grin ?


No, the OP is Tilomare, a known bad who plays on Cannith.
  
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #13 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm
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The limiting factor on this seems to be landing it.  It is a 6 second stun that doesn't work if you are already adjacent to the mob. 

I think it is a nice feat, but not OP.  And I don't see casters and healers getting excited about it.
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 7:46pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:43pm:
This AzureWhore cunt is trying hard to have it his way. I wonder whose sock he is.

Bleackheartox ???


Oh, hey pescha. Saw you got banned on the main board again. How stupid can one be?
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:24pm
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FYI, doesn't work on a Warlock if your in shape stance, cone for example.  You get error that states "you do not have the right weapon equipped." Will work if you are using aura.
  
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Re: Dire charge for everyone staying at cap?
Reply #16 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:20pm
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Doodle wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 4:59pm:
I have no problems in LE quests holding etc with my enchant focused lock.  I do debuff at times. I haven't done raids yet.  Wish the worlds would open.  It's what I was hoping to try. 


That's will save, not fort.  Will saves are reasonable even in LE raids except for the orange-name renders in hound.
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Reply #17 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 11:26pm
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viadrouw wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 7:46pm:
Oh, hey pescha. Saw you got banned on the main board again. How stupid can one be?



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