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4 Piece Greensteel Set Bonus
Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:44pm
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So... after extensive testing...

Any 4 shroud accessories give a four piece set bonus to spell critical AND melee critical damage.

The amount of the bonus is determined by how many matching accessories you are wearing, ex. 3 dominion and 1 escalation would give the 4 piece set bonus, BUT the amount of the bonus would be determined as if you were wearing 3, due to only the 3 dominions matching.

With 3 tier 3 opposition and 1 tier 1 opposition you are getting 25% spell critical damage and 11% melee critical damage, along with 26% maximum hitpoints. With 3 Tier 3 opposition and 1 tier 3 escalation you are getting 23% spell critical damage and 10% melee critical damage, with no set bonus. With 3 tier 3 dominions and 1 tier 3 escalations you are getting 26% maximum SP with 23% spell critical damage and 11% melee critical damage.

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Re: 4 Piece Greensteel Set Bonus
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:53pm
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Must first jump into the lava in The Twelve to activate set bonus. Also, a quality alacrity bonus can be activated by typing "/Death Spree".
  

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Revaulting wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:53pm:
Must first jump into the lava in The Twelve to activate set bonus. Also, a quality alacrity bonus can be activated by typing "/Death Spree".


Huh? The set bonus doesn't work unless it is cleansed also BTW.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 12:15am
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So you guys have run Shroud enough to complete three tier 3 items and a tier 1 item?
Holy fuck - do you stop playing DDO to shit or do you just have a laptop on your crapper?

Kudos to you though - that is some serious effort gone into that!!!
  
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Re: 4 Piece Greensteel Set Bonus
Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:02am
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In order to equip 4 GS accessories, you would need to have 15,000 codex runes for buying 3 cleansers.  Given that you get approximately 200 per run for a mix of LE/LH runs, that would mean you would have needed at least 75 runs and not spent any runes on making the actual items.  So, at least 77 runs.  The raid has been out for almost exactly 3 weeks, so it is doable.  That would be about 3.66 runs per day.  Each run is about 40 minutes, so you are looking at around 3 hours per day every day to get to this point.  It's unlikely but not impossible. 

77 runs would yield at least 154 large mats, so you'd have plenty of mats for it.  You need 16 for each T3.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:07am
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Sergod wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:59pm:
Huh? The set bonus doesn't work unless it is cleansed also BTW.

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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:32am
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Asheras wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:02am:
In order to equip 4 GS accessories, you would need to have 15,000 codex runes for buying 3 cleansers.  Given that you get approximately 200 per run for a mix of LE/LH runs, that would mean you would have needed at least 75 runs and not spent any runes on making the actual items.  So, at least 77 runs.  The raid has been out for almost exactly 3 weeks, so it is doable.  That would be about 3.66 runs per day.  Each run is about 40 minutes, so you are looking at around 3 hours per day every day to get to this point.  It's unlikely but not impossible. 

77 runs would yield at least 154 large mats, so you'd have plenty of mats for it.  You need 16 for each T3. 


Trust me, the way he does Shroud doesn't take 40 minutes. Maybe half that. Doesn't cost him any timer bypasses either.
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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:53am
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you don't need to have them cleansed to put em on and check

it applies it to combat log quick and then taint overides
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 2:00am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:53am:
you don't need to have them cleansed to put em on and check

it applies it to combat log quick


Sergod wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:59pm:
Huh? The set bonus doesn't work unless it is cleansed also BTW.


  
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Have any screenshots?  People have posted some of the 2 and 3 piece set bonus giving %HP and %SP in the forums.  This is the first time I'm hearing of 4 piece giving critical damage.
  
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I'll post screenies in a sec. In shroud runs.
  
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Thanks, appreciated ;o
  
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Wyni wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:32am:
Trust me, the way he does Shroud doesn't take 40 minutes. Maybe half that. Doesn't cost him any timer bypasses either.


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Sergod wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
I can't believe I have 0 pms


PM me about your lack of PM. Btw, you got a PM
  
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Asheras wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:02am:
In order to equip 4 GS accessories, you would need to have 15,000 codex runes for buying 3 cleansers.  Given that you get approximately 200 per run for a mix of LE/LH runs, that would mean you would have needed at least 75 runs and not spent any runes on making the actual items.  So, at least 77 runs.  The raid has been out for almost exactly 3 weeks, so it is doable.  That would be about 3.66 runs per day.  Each run is about 40 minutes, so you are looking at around 3 hours per day every day to get to this point.  It's unlikely but not impossible. 

77 runs would yield at least 154 large mats, so you'd have plenty of mats for it.  You need 16 for each T3. 


You can supplement the codex runes by ransacking the flagging quests.
  

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GeppoX wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
Xplo if you feel alone i ll send you a PM Tongue


Only if I can PM you back. Only then you are allowed me to PM me about Sergod  lack of PM about sending him a PM.

Clear enough? PM me for clarifications  Smiley
  
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Intervention wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
send me screenshot zerg


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Reply #21 - Jan 10th, 2016 at 10:47pm
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Got to ask him what 4 of the same gives. (for each type)
  
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
You can supplement the codex runes by ransacking the flagging quests.


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Sergod wrote on Jan 10th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
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Well I was going to PM, but now it feels forced and lacks the fun spontaneity that I felt when I was going to PM....

I'm torn.
  
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Re: 4 Piece Greensteel Set Bonus
Reply #24 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 9:17am
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Sergod wrote on Jan 9th, 2016 at 11:44pm:
So... after extensive testing...

Any 4 shroud accessories give a four piece set bonus to spell critical AND melee critical damage.

The amount of the bonus is determined by how many matching accessories you are wearing, ex. 3 dominion and 1 escalation would give the 4 piece set bonus, BUT the amount of the bonus would be determined as if you were wearing 3, due to only the 3 dominions matching.

With 3 tier 3 opposition and 1 tier 1 opposition you are getting 25% spell critical damage and 11% melee critical damage, along with 26% maximum hitpoints. With 3 Tier 3 opposition and 1 tier 3 escalation you are getting 23% spell critical damage and 10% melee critical damage, with no set bonus. With 3 tier 3 dominions and 1 tier 3 escalations you are getting 26% maximum SP with 23% spell critical damage and 11% melee critical damage.

Enjoy the info guys!


Only issue with this:  Can you find 4 shroud items that you would want to wear?  If weapons count, that would help a lot. 

Melees:

The guards are non-starters for anyone (33d6 for a tier 3 = 115 average damage.  Against mobs with 20k plus hp.  Does spell power or melee power affect them?  That could make them a possibility for casters more so than melees.  Although casters don't generally want to take hits THAT often)

Obv, melees aren't going to be making spell crit items. 

An SP item slot for cocoon, other possible ED abilities that use SP, and buffage is a waste.  A topaz +250 is more than sufficent and everyone still has plenty of slots to use.

HP item, sure.  That's 1.

Extend unconscious range with decent regen benefit, sure.  That's 2.

But you have to grab two more of saves or triple negative, or elemental resists?  Ugh.  That's tossing two slots in the toilet.  A hard sell, even for the incremental value on the sets.

Casters have a better shot, since they can easily justify a spell crit, SP, and HP item.  (Although divines and warlocks (and bards, to some degree) get fucked on not having force, light, or sonic spell power in there).  That 4th item is still a tough call though, given everything else you have to work in on the remaining slots. 

I can't see doing a 4 item set on any of my characters unless weapons count.  Although two and three item sets still get some bonus, so that's cool too.  And probably enough benefit.  Adds some complexity to mapping out what you make.
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