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Jan 23rd, 2016 at 4:32am
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Ok, so I want to make a build that is similar to Supreme Cleavage without the cleaves. This means I have to try boost attack speed and hits of AoN. So thinking of SWF + TWF exploit wolves, and thinking larger...
I know we want DoD to replace cleaving. So 5 Ranger, probably 6 for extra TWF feat.

So 6 ranger 33 AP is down


I'm pretty sure we want Monk centered for unarmed attack speed boost. At that point you might as well get shadow veil 11 AP and deft strikes/iron skin 13 AP.

So 6 ranger/6 monk 57 AP is down

Leaves I guess 8 warlock 21 AP for brilliance ES and displacement spell

So 6 ranger/6 monk/8 warlock 78 AP

Human I guess lets you double boost. And 1 more AP somewhere.

So Human 6 Ranger 6 monk 8 warlock 79 AP.

  
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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 4:37am
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So Feats

1 SWF Human: Precision?
2 TWF (Ranger free)
3 CE?
6 ITWF (Ranger free) ISWF
9 IC:B
12 Extend (for displacement)
15 GTWF
18 GSWF
21 OC
24 ?
26 PTWF
27 ?
28 ?
29 ?
30 ?

Monk freex3 feats?
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Reply #2 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:55am
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Nice idea,but where is your druid levels? If you was talking about trees,the answer is no,its attack speed is fucking slow even with boosts. Cry
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Reply #3 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 5:59am
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manual attack speed of trees is kaka. last i tried i was on a swf/twf, wolf, with a split of 9mnk 9rng 2 drd. did it twice for last 2 rng pl. few updates before u24 tho

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Reply #4 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 9:11am
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I feel trolled.  I see no cleavage here.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 9:42am
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Toke wrote on Jan 23rd, 2016 at 9:11am:
I feel trolled.  I see no cleavage here.

Non-Cleavage

all good, marty. i get high and dont even remember shit in the middle of doing it.
  

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Reply #6 - Jan 23rd, 2016 at 10:50am
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Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 4:10pm
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Ok, so I want to make a build that is similar to Supreme Cleavage without the cleaves. This means I have to try boost attack speed and hits of AoN. So thinking of SWF + TWF exploit wolves, and thinking larger...
I know we want DoD to replace cleaving. So 5 Ranger, probably 6 for extra TWF feat.

So 6 ranger 33 AP is down


I'm pretty sure we want Monk centered for unarmed attack speed boost. At that point you might as well get shadow veil 11 AP and deft strikes/iron skin 13 AP.

So 6 ranger/6 monk 57 AP is down

Leaves I guess 8 warlock 21 AP for brilliance ES and displacement spell

So 6 ranger/6 monk/8 warlock 78 AP

Human I guess lets you double boost. And 1 more AP somewhere.

So Human 6 Ranger 6 monk 8 warlock 79 AP.



Is tree still bugged - causing massive lag when you swap?

What's your latest regular tree build?
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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:32pm
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I had 11 ranger, 6 monk, 3 lock and 12 monk, 5 ranger, 3 lock variations. They were both fun but not as much as 12 monk, 5 paladin, 3 lock. Since I'm a lazyass, extra prr helped a lot.

I definitely used cleaves, and t5 tempest just for cuts and the off-hand thingie. If dod makes a differance I'm hella down for it.
Human works pretty well for it. If you go fully ranger with free twf line, you even can get mark for ddoor. Yes I had it once  Cheesy Cheesy

SpaceGoat wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
Is tree still bugged - causing massive lag when you swap?

What's your latest regular tree build?

12 monk, 6lock, 2 paladin and Tilo's barb build are still solid.
I still love my 12 monk, 5 pally, 3 lock tho. It's another option.
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:35pm
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tekel bayi wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
I had 11 ranger, 6 monk, 3 lock


6 fighter gives you much more DPS for TWF than 6 monk.
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:35pm
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Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:39pm
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Also, 3 fvs elf dex build (scimi) with the righteous weapons and elven racial bonuses will out-perform khopeshes, and by a mile; way better than 3 warlock.
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:42pm
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Reply #13 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:46pm
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Basically, everyone who thinks khopeshes are worth a damn (PRO TIP: they aren't) has never built an elf, dex based ranger/fvs splash using scimitars; far superior DPS with dex to damage, and evasion is always good for survivability.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 6:50pm
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i'm so bad liar.

  

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Reply #15 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:00pm
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So Feats

1 SWF Human: Precision?
2 TWF (Ranger free)
3 CE?
6 ITWF (Ranger free) ISWF
9 IC:B
12 Extend (for displacement)
15 GTWF
18 GSWF
21 OC
24 ?
26 PTWF
27 ?
28 ?
29 ?
30 ?

Monk freex3 feats?


I have a few opinions, not best ones but they can be useful.

Emp. Healing - without loh you will need cacoon
toughness, epic toughness - are good options
dodge, mobility - If you are not at cap
Epic reflexes - It was pretty good at doj end fight, I don't have a toon with it now. I'm not sure how it works in leg. content.
Dire charge - is it working in aon? Deific warding is good too.
Guardian angel or +20 pos. sp
For last feat I'm not that sure but I would take scion of fire rather than arborea, I was using a toee fire kama for some more consecration ticks and saves. If you are using something like that, fire looks more solid.

  
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Reply #16 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:12pm
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C'mon Tagyis, you are better than that.
  
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Reply #17 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:13pm
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tekel bayi wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:12pm:
C'mon Tagyis, you are better than that.

She's scared. lol
  

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Reply #18 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:13pm
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Is Tagyis the baddest scimi-wielding mofo ever, or something?  That comparison comes up every time I bring up these TWF builds.
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:16pm
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More on.

  

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Reply #20 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:52pm
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Even cannith players remember your shitty elven fvs dex builds. You are a perfect match of (prettyhaired + kizl + vanoger)/2 if you need a comparison.

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Reply #21 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:57pm
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tekel bayi wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:52pm:
Even cannith players remember your shitty elven fvs dex builds. You are a perfect match of (kizl + vanoger)/2 if you need a comparison.


Every fvs I played was a WIS oriented caster, with just enough CHA not to fail the spells.  What I keep referring to here is splashing fvs (3 levels) to get 3 tiers of righteous weapons (scimitars from the undying court) and the inflame buff: that's a total of +7 damage, + 8 if you cast divine favor, and the +4 elven racial: that's +19 to damage per hit, which quickly outpaces khopesh.
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Reply #22 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:58pm
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I forgot adding pretty into equation. edit it pupo
  
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Reply #23 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:59pm
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tekel bayi wrote on Jan 28th, 2016 at 7:52pm:
You are a perfect match of (prettyhaired + kizl + vanoger)/2 if you need a comparison.


I have no idea what this gibberish means.
  
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Reply #24 - Jan 28th, 2016 at 8:13pm
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Im stupid.

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