I think I'm ok with that. You'd see massively over level groups to get reaper stuff from lower level quests defeats the purpose.

Asheras wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 10:52pm:



You don't think DC builds will perform well enough in early & mid-levels ash? the benefits of multiple past lives carries a lot of weight those first 15 levs.

Grand wrote on Jan 24^th, 2017 at 11:13pm:



Don't get me wrong, they can definitely do it.  But spell point pools tend to be shit early on.  And there aren't a lot of great CC spells early in the game. 

Divines don't get Greater Command till level 9/10.  Until then, it is a steady diet of single target Command and your only AoE is Soundburst stuns for CC.

Arcanes at least get Hypnotism, Sleep, Web, Ottos Dance, Hypnotic Pattern at levels 1 and 2.  Several of which are AoE.

Instakill doesn't show up till Slay living at level 9/10 for divines or PK for arcanes at level 7/8.   

Fuck overlevel restrictions, they are gay, retarded and anti DnD.

It's a brave decision. I doubt SS have the balls to stick to it. Easymode players likely will wear them down.

But I can hope they won't.

Lemming wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 2:44am:



Unlike Memiors of an illusory larcener this is truly a choose your own adventure.  You can pick "Let's have an actual discussion of the merits of limiting reaper to at-level vs. over-level runs" (Option A) or "Let's keep trolling each other and acting like jackasses" (option B)

Option A:
How about giving a counter argument as to why it is a bad decision.  What would be the positives of allowing over-level reaper mode running?

Option B:
You cry like a little bitch.  It's not even here yet and you are want to make Reaper an easy button.  Chances are you are too scared or weak to be able to run it at level.  Sack up or shut up. 

Asheras wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 8:36am:

More retarded artificial difficulty, enemies at this point are just skins, as stats are largely interchangeable.
A game was that was born out of emulating reality with a set of rules has become a gamey piece of shit, and every time they push it in this direction it just becomes worse for it.

I was really hoping that Reaper would be scaled up versions of every quest playable at cap - or close to cap.

Wipe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 11:28am:


I get what you are saying.  All I really wanted was a new difficulty at cap that we could run.  So many builds are half baked in heroics and early epics.  I didn't really want more challenges in those level ranges.  I wanted to use 1-28 to acquire PL's so that the level 28-30 character would be ready for a challenge.  I enjoy the 1-28 process, but really the goal is a level 30 character that I can put to the test.  That's how I like to play.

But there were a whole horde of people who did want challenge all thru heroics and early epics.  People who don't stay at cap or some who never even do epics.  Just stay in heroics.  And they wanted more challenge too. 

I get why Turbine didn't scale every quest for Level 28-30 toons.  It doesn't match my play style or goals, but I get it.  And thus, why they have to limit the level 28-30 toons from rofl stomping the low level reaper 10 skulls for xp or reaper gear. 

Lemming wrote on Jan 25^th, 2017 at 2:44am:


I agree again with Ash ( oh dear )... putting an overlevel restriction in place for Reaper is good.

If you want to get raped do it at level or underlevel.

It might bring back the good old feel of the first year of DDO where people actually cared to be in groups and cared enough to make sure all the bases were covered in the group... because the game was unforgiving.

As I said several time : there's no bravery in doing a quest on Elite two level below the party/character level ( which if you do some Vault maths get it to the party level )... while it's brave to go in a quest 5 levels above the party level, with a full party.

I dunno if its been said or not, but this also provides some incentive for TR-junkies to spend a little time at cap. Grinding out gear is meh, but grinding out reaper benefits could be worthwhile. Plus, imagine all the awful puns we'll get to make!

It will limit some of the options for capped characters until there's more level 28 content. But overall I think it's a positive.

Like Flav mentioned it's going to make people think about party composition and maintain a few viable alts to help fill parties better.