zoriaan wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 10:16am:

Is it workable?  Most likely, yes.  Will it be good in reaper?  Probably not.  Reaper is for min/max'd meta builds and toons.

Keeping MoK charged isn't too bad once you get into the routine of when and where to use Arcane Blast, regardless of content.  If anything, Reaper may make it easier since the mobs will take longer to die.

In the end though, any shiradi build without T5 archmage will be roughly 90 spell power and 60 spell crit damage less than one with MoK.  Every 78 seconds it is also 25% lower on spell crit chance and 100% lower on spell crit damage on top of the MoK advantages.

Part of what makes the undead shiradi so good is that you can time your death aura (healing) for when Arcane Supremacy is active and it retains that level of spell power, crit chance and crit damage which means it constantly heals you to full in 1 to 2 tics assuming you're geared properly. 

This plus high power Negative Energy Bursts and a decent level of PRR, fortification, dodge and displacement means you're virtually unkillable unless something can one-shot you.  Giving up MoK and Arcane Supremacy will have a noticeable impact on the healing aspect.

hydra wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

Hellball charging MoK is already on the shortlist to be nerfed if it hasn't already been on Lama.  And if it's nerfed on Lama, it will be rolled to live in a week or so.  Why would you advise or argue for taking a feat that the build in question will soon have literally zero way to charge up?

hydra wrote on Jan 30^th, 2017 at 6:05pm:

First, if you think Arcane Supremacy is little impact, you need to learn A) how to snapshot spells and B) how to time boosted ruins.  Ruins and Greater Ruins with action boosts + charged MoK + Arcane Supremacy are the caster version of furyshots.

Second, swapping out wizard levels for three warlock nearly evens out the spell power and crit bonuses.

• Archmage (33 pts in tree) = 43 spell power, 14% force crit chance, 7% elemental crit chance
• Warlock (28 pts between the three trees) = 41 spell power, 10% spell crit damage

Pretty close if you don't count Arcane Supremacy and MoK, especially if you factor in the increased spell point pool and faster spell rotations from sorcerer vs wizard.  If you count MoK and Arcane Supremacy though, it's no contest.

Hey guys, thanks for the tips! Much appreciated!

If you wanna build a MM spammer for reaper 10 skull (if an MM spammer is even viable in 10 skull) .... and considering most people say you will get one-shot in 10 skull with say 100prr and 1500HP on a caster... could the following "full retard" spammer work:

11 Sorc, 6 wizzy, 3 lock : use both the 3pc abisahi set and DoJ gloves for caster levels (they stack i believe)...then use either 3 pc slavers + 2pc LGS or 5 pc slavers set in addition to the caster lvl gear...should all fit i beleive?

Could this work, or is it recommended to never go full retard like this split above?

I dont care about FvS just reward should have plenty of Spellpoints to spam shit and make it to the next shrine...the bugged maximise reduction from FvS and Wizzy trees are tempting though....

Just throwing ideas around here...maybe someone has tried this before?

How to charge MoK with hellball? PM if you don't feel like posting

Vaultaccount wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 9:16am:

Have MoK feat...aim hellball at a pack of mobs...win...just make sure you eldrich aura is not active...i used to use it on Zori, pretty damn OP...but will be fixed in u34 i think...

zoriaan wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 3:21am:

If all you want to do is spam MM, this may work.   

If you plan on using Hellball, Ruin and Greater Ruin along with MM spam, you will wish you had Just Rewards and the dual Maximize reduction.  Plan B of course is bring lots of Mnemonic pots.

hydra wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 11:20am:

I was assuming that they would not be using metas on the MM spams.  It'd be mediocre DPS but with no hellballs, no ruins and a large enough spell point pool, they could probably limp from shrine to shrine.

Definitely wouldn't be my choice of a build, they're asking if it could be done and it can in theory.  I would personally never run a Shiradi spammer without Just Rewards.  I agree, there are better options for DPS in reaper than this idea.

SpaceGoat wrote on Jan 31^st, 2017 at 12:45pm:


There's no definitive answer for that. Mostly just a function of lag. Several players have their own systems that they think reliably increases the % rate of it happening though. Personally on average I get it to proc ~20% of the time unless there's a giant lag spike. In which case, my % goes up to something like 80%+.