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Reply #25 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:59pm
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Technomage wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:58pm:
I can find other, more "reputable" sources that conveys the message, if you'd like.


Yeah I'd appreciate it.



Technomage wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:01pm:
Here's a few:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/20/trump-may-have-been-unclear-but-swede...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/22/data-analysis-true-scale-immigration-...


Here's a story that says, yes, crime has gone up but the reports are exaggerated:

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/02/trump-exaggerates-swedish-crime/


So we have both sides saying crime has gone up. One side says it's gone up and by a LOT. The other side says, yes, it's gone up but not as much as some think.

One side seems to have an interest in inflating the crime rate rise and the other (Sweden) seems to have an interest in downplaying the seriousness of the crime increase.

My guess is the truth is somewhere in between...which still isn't good.



Fox is way too biased and poorly researched, the telegraph is a fish wrap, factcheck is fine if a bit shallow to the point of being easy to twist.

Ideally sources like, the WSJ, Forbes, Bloomberg, NPR, PBS news hour, can answer to issues. I'm secure enough in my conservative values and love of this country I don't need slanted cheerleadering to keep me honest, I prefer facts and relatively unbiased and boring news.


I think the issue here is that Trump didn't whip the crowd up with talk about the rising crime rate, he spoke of a terrorist incident that he implied had sprung from the migrants and refugees Sweden has unwisely saddled themselves with. He was lying, big surprise, he is almost always lying, god help us when he has something true and important to tell us.

Trump's problem (and ours unfortunately) is that he habitually lies. Meanwhile Sweden's problem is that it has unwisely taken refugees and migrants from places they would have done well to avoid. They suffer from the unrest, crime, isolationist, and tremendous aggression of young Somali men, perhaps the most difficult of any troublesome group of migrants to spread across the west in the last 20 years. London, Minnesota, and Scandinavia have all struggled to integrate these gents unsuccessfully for decades with dire results. Sweden and London's politically correct straight jacket mentality have made it even worse. These little bastards have grown extensive criminal networks and pushed out others in all three countries, and used extensive clan connections to launder money across the Somali disport. On the bright side, they tend to put there individual, family, and clan needs well ahead of blind loyalty to radical Islam, but they are still a pack of thugs who need to be kicked out. 

I'd recommend Fergusson's "The World's Most Dangerous Place" if you're interested.
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Re: Slavelords/Pizzagate
Reply #26 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:12pm
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T: Funny though. Not one person has even discussed the riots or the violence. I bet American TV is plastered with it despite similar things happening in half a dozen US cities in the last 6 months.
T: It's like me sending you a news blip about a shooting in Chicago and saying how concerned I am for your well-being.

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Laugh it up, funny man.
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Re: Slavelords/Pizzagate
Reply #27 - Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:15pm
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Ah Pook wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:12pm:
T: Funny though. Not one person has even discussed the riots or the violence. I bet American TV is plastered with it despite similar things happening in half a dozen US cities in the last 6 months.
T: It's like me sending you a news blip about a shooting in Chicago and saying how concerned I am for your well-being.

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Who said we were "concerned" about any Swede's well being??
  

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Re: Slavelords/Pizzagate
Reply #28 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 2:07am
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Technomage wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Who said we were "concerned" about any Swede's well being??

Whoosh.   Roll Eyes

Nobody.  Don't judge America by Detroit.
  

Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake.


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Laugh it up, funny man.
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Reply #29 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 2:51am
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Technomage wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Who said we were "concerned" about any Swede's well being??


Yup, totally misses the point.
  
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Reply #30 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 6:03am
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I haven't paid any attention at all, but nobody cares about Detroit.
  

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Reply #31 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 9:42am
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Reply #32 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 4:06pm
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That was disappointing. Let's throw some fuel on the fire here and see if anyone gets burned.

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Reply #33 - Feb 23rd, 2017 at 4:55pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 4:06pm:
That was disappointing. Let's throw some fuel on the fire here and see if anyone gets burned.

http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2015/12/why-we-culturally-profile.html



Dude you need better fuel. If you want to get a rise you need to post from a site that doesn't look like a public-access cable show.

Nothing to see folks move along..
  
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