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Kensei Path for beginners
Mar 28th, 2017 at 2:23pm
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Alignment: Neutral
Class: 20 Fighter


Stats: (28 pt build)

Strength...........17 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........13
Constitution.......16
Intelligence........8
Wisdom.............8
Charisma...........8

Stats: (32 pt build)

Strength...........18 (+ level ups)
Dexterity...........14
Constitution.......16
Intelligence........8
Wisdom.............8
Charisma...........8

Feat Progression:

Level 1     : Power Attack
Level 1     : Cleave
Level 2     : Two Handed Fighting
Level 3     : Weapon Focus Slashing
Level 4     : Great Cleave
Level 6     : Improved Two Handed Fighting
Level 6     : Weapon Specialization Slashing
Level 8     : Improved Critical Slashing
Level 9     : Greater Weapon Focus Slashing
Level 10   : Heavy Armor Master
Level 12   : Greater Two Handed Fighting
Level 12   : Greater Weapon Specialization Slashing
Level 14   : Heavy Armor Champion
Level 15   : Dodge
Level 16   : Tactical Supremacy
Level 18   : Superior Weapon Focus
Level 18   : Mobility
Level 20   : Heavy Amor Training
Level 21   : Overwhelming Critical
Level 24   : Tactical Mastery
Level 26   : Perfect Two Handed Fighting
Level 27   : Weapon Focus Bludgeoning
Level 28   : Elusive Target
Level 29   : Dire Charge
Level 30   : Weapon Specialization
Level 30   : Scion of Arborea

if human add Toughness


Skills:
Intimidate

if human/drow add Jump
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #1 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:20am
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Why are you investing so many points in Dex on a THF build?  So you can take dodge and mobility later?  On a heavy armor build?  I'm not really seeing the value in that.  Especially if it is a 1-20 only build.  Do people in heavy armor have AC problems 1-20 on a fighter with access to stalwart stance?  Seems I am constantly at a 75% or greater miss chance with my AC in heroics on my heavy armor THF/TWF. 

Seems like more STR or more CON would work better.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #2 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:36am
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Requirement for dodge with no tomes these are for new players not vets.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #3 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:25am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 9:36am:
Requirement for dodge with no tomes these are for new players not vets.


Duh.  And why does a new player (or any player really) need dodge on a THF heavy armor fighter build?  That's the question.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #4 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 6:21pm
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Asheras wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:25am:
Duh.  And why does a new player (or any player really) need dodge on a THF heavy armor fighter build?  That's the question.

I think he was trying to be true to the Kensai tree, which requires Dodge for two of its enhancements, and Dodge & Mobility together for one. The tree is crazy for Dodge.

Personally, I think that's a mistake. Yeah, a beginner's going to be confused/upset when they're unable to put points into Reed in the Wind & Dodge & Armor Mastery, but do you really want them to put points into Reed in the Wind & Dodge & Armor Mastery?

Not taking Dodge as a feat until lvl 15 is going to leave them confused anyway, unless Iconic.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 1:34pm
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Asheras wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 10:25am:
Duh.  And why does a new player (or any player really) need dodge on a THF heavy armor fighter build?  That's the question.


Is it overkill? Maybe for normal. Eventually they are going to wander into elite though, and +8 dodge/+5 Max Dex, +3 AC, and +3 reflex is going to keep them alive longer than 15 hp, +1 fort, and 4 MP.

Keep in mind, no native healing, and probably 215 hp at level 15. (15*13+20) 260 if they manage to find a con 6 item. Dodge is only going to get more important/valuable as they level, especially if they go all the way to 30.
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #6 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 5:09pm
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I wouldn't put skill points in intimidate. The last thing you want on this build with a new player is someone spamming intimidate and actually succeeding sometimes. Other than UMD not sure where I'd put them. But not there.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2017 at 6:32pm
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It's hard to melee something when it is chasing someone else. So much newbie drama is over kiting.
  
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Re: Kensei Path for beginners
Reply #8 - Apr 3rd, 2017 at 2:31pm
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Never chase a monster that is being kited.

In the end it will come to you - either because the kiter will come to you, or will die and you will still be alive. 

Explain that to the kiter.  Use small words to be sure that they understand.
  
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