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Reply #100 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:18pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:13pm:
I did exploit the shit out of saga and got no ban.

If you were caught you are gay, retarded, stupid or Fran.

nah, bro. according to homomagearkat, dey gots the toolz!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #101 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:21pm
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IIT: niggas be mad how i just roll up in threads and just start popping off


  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #102 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:26pm
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Teth wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:13pm:
In the end it "should" work out.  Had a few guildies that got booted from the server and werent able to log on yesterday, after about 30 mins or so they were able to get back on.  Im just guessing, but would assume they were getting their account researched, as said guildies said they did obtain a saga, but legally.


yup, this is correct.

Guessing in the end it was both snitching AND logs of people getting XP from Sagas.

It's not like it's hard for them implement something that very roughly buckets XP received by a character by source (stone, quest completion, optional, wilderness) and then just

select Character where
sum(XP) where source = Stone >sum(XP) where source = anything else

People who think this is too hard to implement for SSG are people who apparently don't know how to program or query databases. It's not very hard.

  
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Reply #103 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:33pm
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
People who think this is too hard to implement for SSG are people who apparently don't know how to program or query databases. It's not very hard.

so, ssg? Grin
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #104 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:41pm
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harharharhar wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
yup, this is correct.

Guessing in the end it was both snitching AND logs of people getting XP from Sagas.

It's not like it's hard for them implement something that very roughly buckets XP received by a character by source (stone, quest completion, optional, wilderness) and then just

select Character where
sum(XP) where source = Stone >sum(XP) where source = anything else

People who think this is too hard to implement for SSG are people who apparently don't know how to program or query databases. It's not very hard.



Or even better, query number of time quest X (which is part of the saga) was completed in the past 60 days. Then compare the number of times saga Y was completed in the same timeframe.
  
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Reply #105 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:42pm
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Someone on facebook ddo page post that all of hes chracters are deleted on sarlona
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Reply #106 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:46pm
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Sprout wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:41pm:
Or even better, query number of time quest X (which is part of the saga) was completed in the past 60 days. Then compare the number of times saga Y was completed in the same timeframe.


This is not a good method. VIP and Shards can skip quests to compete a saga...
  
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Reply #107 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:49pm
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erieli wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Someone on facebook ddo page post that all of hes chracters are deleted on sarlona


The theory SSG is operating under is that "If we delete his characters, he will simply start a new character and continue playing, getting to keep all of the account-upgrades he purchased, so it will be OK."

Lets try and name all the flaws in that theory!
  

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Reply #108 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:52pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
The theory SSG is operating under is that "If we delete his characters, he will simply start a new character and continue playing, getting to keep all of the account-upgrades he purchased, so it will be OK."

Lets try and name all the flaws in that theory!

i mean, i got perma'd and started again. this game is easy. there's droves of tards who have spent 10 fucking years playing and yet my first life bank mules are better than their mains. if you look closely, you can see them right in this thread.
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #109 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:53pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
i mean, i got perma'd and started again. this game is easy. there's droves of tards who have spent 10 fucking years playing and yet my first life bank mules are better than their mains. if you look closely, you can see them right in this thread.

that's why they could never stop me. if i die ima come back and do it again.
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #110 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:58pm
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So that begs the question: why are you still playing?
  

I'll never understand the propensity of people to brag about being good at a video game. Its a toy you play with for fun. The only person who should be proud of you is your mother. If you're 3.
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Reply #111 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
So that begs the question: why are you still playing?

so i can keep popping shit and say im better than niggas
  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #112 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:02pm
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Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #113 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:03pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
So that begs the question: why are you still playing?


The real question is, why do you keep posting...
  

Just because someone asks a question, doesn't mean they need an answer.
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Reply #114 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:04pm
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The exploit still works btw.
  

Dear players,

The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means.

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Reply #115 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:10pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
The exploit still works btw.

  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #116 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:14pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
The exploit still works btw.

If you're going to troll, be more subtle about it...like saying it only works on the Mac client.
  
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Reply #117 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:19pm
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PM_THE_SPLOITS

i aint skeered

  

Mockduck wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #118 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:25pm
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ILoveExploits wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
The exploit still works btw.


don't worry fam I got this covered


  
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Reply #119 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm
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Reply #120 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:34pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
Given that we have confirmed reports of people receiving bans for simply being in 3BC it seems most likely that it was based on snitches.

I don't think confirmed means what you think it means.
  
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Reply #121 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:48pm
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no. wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
This is not a good method. VIP and Shards can skip quests to compete a saga...

Can only skip one quest per saga with shards though so the discrepancies would still show up for the saga as a whole.  This is just semantics anyway. 

With automatic log parsing and monitoring in place, there are multiple metrics that could be used to throw up red flags on anyone stupid enough to use this sort of exploit, especially after it becomes semi-publicly known.

Levels per hour/day/week.
Saga XP stones used per hour/day/week.
Sagas completed per hour/day.
Sagas quests completed versus sagas completed.
Total number of missions versus total number of level increases.

The list goes on.

The interesting thing about all this to me is that it seems SSG has finally taken a few pages from Valve/Steam's playbook on how to deal with exploiters.  They've clearly known about this exploit for weeks or even months.  Rather than doing their usual, stupid "nuke it from orbit now now now!" thing, they let it run for an undisclosed amount of time and just logged everyone that did it to build the ban list.  Then *boom*.

That's how Valve handles VAC bans.  Doing it that way makes it much harder for the originators of the exploits to determine exactly when/how/why they got caught.  Plus it widens the net and catches the script kiddies who come along after the original group that they would have missed if they just banned the exploiters/hacks as soon as they found them.
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Reply #122 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:58pm
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Digimonk wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:34pm:
I don't think confirmed means what you think it means.


You should put some skill points in "Detect Sarcasm" next time you level.
  

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Reply #123 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:01pm
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noamineo wrote on Feb 28th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
You should put some skill points in "Detect Sarcasm" next time you level.

Nice try.  Someone forgot to tell you Intelligence is not a dump stat.
  
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Reply #124 - Feb 28th, 2018 at 3:18pm
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Is Int the stat that figures out when someone is being sarcastic? If so, you should really buy a tome or something.
  

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