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Reply #375 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 11:20am
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 10:31am:
And what exactly is the point of using Dust if you are trading it for a shitty weapon with low BDR that heals undeads on every hit ?
Dust is almost meaningless when you're fighting against enemies with significant PRR (everything has prr in reaper).

that makes dust better you fucking doof
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #376 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 11:23am
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 10:31am:
You are gimping your dps for a debuff which doesn't stack up fast enough on trash mobs before they die or you are doing it to increase the dps of your crappy group members which is retarded and pointless. I am not gimping myself to carry you noobs .

Gimping by a small margin, you dumb fuck. For the ability to stop large groups of mobs in place. Dazing wears off really fast, some mobs save vs dire, some dire charges graze, some mobs cant be stunned. What salt does is pin those mobs so they cant even get an attack in, let alone maneuver into position to hit you. It stacks really fucking fast on a tempests, you moronic dipshit.

you 100% play like the bitch that your are on these forums. hiding behind walls and shit while your party leads the charge. fucking pussy in game as in life
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #377 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 12:32pm
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Good luck fighting bosses without debuffs , even with superb deeps party. Dust is awesome.
Vulnerability + dust + rebuke + ass trick + hunter mark + jade strike + suffering/ooze + lock tainted.
Cracking attack, shattering strike, shattered device ( fuck if i know if it works )

Salt, idk. Maybe if your caster sucks. But then you will get fucked either way in one of those pulls.
  
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Reply #378 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 1:26pm
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Wipe wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 12:32pm:
Salt, idk. Maybe if your caster sucks. But then you will get fucked either way in one of those pulls.


Rarely. I am always at the front of the group. I know where packs spawn and in what formations. I know where to target and how to tab target multiple mobs instead of just 4. The cc on a properly played tempest is amazing because it's 3 layers and 2 of those offer no save. I couldn't do what I do on any other build, aside maybe Bard. But a first life Tempest offers more than Bard due to DoD with Salt and Daze. I rarely, if ever get got by mobs when i lead in with cc.

But then again I over perform like a baws
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #379 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 2:27pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 1:26pm:
Rarely. I am always at the front of the group. I know where packs spawn and in what formations. I know where to target and how to tab target multiple mobs instead of just 4. The cc on a properly played tempest is amazing because it's 3 layers and 2 of those offer no save. I couldn't do what I do on any other build, aside maybe Bard. But a first life Tempest offers more than Bard due to DoD with Salt and Daze. I rarely, if ever get got by mobs when i lead in with cc.


This sums up how to play Tempest. You can confortably charge on packs of mobs with Flow + Nightshard. Dire charge and DoD + plus all the clickies and you are the off-ccer + main dps of the group.

I put sentient gem on Flow, Nightshard offhand and this is my main set up. (+ slot Deconstructor on both and something else you like)

I also use affirmation off hand for quick switch to get those 1k hp when cc/heals are not that great or if quest requires. Dual Vulkoor's with good for when DR breaking is needed. Broccoli and Celestia for specific situations. Beacons for skellies. Dust for boss if you have materials to burn. Soulrazor for fun. New scimitar to be tested, but I guess will be another boss beater.
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Reply #380 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 2:37pm
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This build is now a walking soul stone
  
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Reply #381 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:11pm
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DnD wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 2:27pm:
This sums up how to play Tempest. You can confortably charge on packs of mobs with Flow + Nightshard. Dire charge and DoD + plus all the clickies and you are the off-ccer + main dps of the group.

I put sentient gem on Flow, Nightshard offhand and this is my main set up. (+ slot Deconstructor on both and something else you like)

I also use affirmation off hand for quick switch to get those 1k hp when cc/heals are not that great or if quest requires. Dual Vulkoor's with good for when DR breaking is needed. Broccoli and Celestia for specific situations. Beacons for skellies. Dust for boss if you have materials to burn. Soulrazor for fun. New scimitar to be tested, but I guess will be another boss beater.


Nightshard only works on the same weapon unlike guardbreaker which affects BOTH weapons and daze is better than salt so there is no need to go full retard and use them both if you can get more dps from vulkoors edge. It is more than just a dr breaker mind you.
  
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Reply #382 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:28pm
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"one form of inconsistent crowd control is all you need" said the stupidest fuck ever. That .5 dice roll is really gonna come in handy when you're dead ass is a soul stone.
  
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Reply #383 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 12:23pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 4th, 2019 at 4:59am:
Trinket : CC: Melee Alacrity/Saves +12/Insightful int +7
Boots: Slavers : +45 Sheltering/+14 Deception/+22 Hide/+4 Quality Con
Belt : CC : Insightful Diversion +11/Parry +7/insightful CON +7

Do you even Dire Charge, bro?  4 DEX > 4 CON. Boots should be either Piston Boots (hi2u 5 MP), or CC INS Combat Mastery +6 in the interim.  You don't need INS Diversion.  If you really want threat reduction for bosses, then slot the -50% threat filigree.

If you're going with Scion of the Ethereal Plane, then slot Diamond of Skill: Hide +15 and create triple AEM LGS belt for +39 DEX skills.  About the same HP as INS CON +7 once you slot a +2 INS CON augment.

  
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Reply #384 - Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:04pm
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Had a chance to dps test on lama tonight and was pleased with the results. Peak times of 24 and 25 seconds. Up from my previous 30 seconds with Silent Set + Artifact.

Using the Sharn set up posted here : http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1533080274/312#312

I could adjust my AP to include more dps options ( namely rotational clickies ), but I am still on a more hp/prr orientated AP split.

Filigrees are 5pc Prowess + 4pc Shattered Device + 2pc Sucker Punch raid Rare + Sucker Punch MP.

Shattered Device is excellent now as it procs much more reliably, I would say somewhere around a 20% proc rate.

The new Scimitar is the top dps weapon concerning scimitars and rapiers. It beats Nightshard and Vulkor. 1d6 +3 x 8.25 trumps the others. My set up was Flow main for vacuum and Dust to start, then Ooze for one hit -> The Fractured Elegance.

Glass Shards is decent. Scales with Vacuum and prr debuffs. It also has, what seems to be around, a 5% crit chance for x2 damage. Saw some ticks at around 3.9k.




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Reply #385 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 12:37am
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Carpone wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
If you're going with Scion of the Ethereal Plane, then slot Diamond of Skill: Hide +15 and create triple AEM LGS belt for +39 DEX skills.  About the same HP as INS CON +7 once you slot a +2 INS CON augment.



Darn.. just when I had decided to go back to Arborea.. I had not considered this and I like it.
  
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Reply #386 - Jul 10th, 2019 at 12:41am
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:04pm:


The new Scimitar is the top dps weapon concerning scimitars and rapiers. It beats Nightshard and Vulkor. 1d6 +3 x 8.25 trumps the others. My set up was Flow main for vacuum and Dust to start, then Ooze for one hit -> The Fractured Elegance.

Glass Shards is decent. Scales with Vacuum and prr debuffs. It also has, what seems to be around, a 5% crit chance for x2 damage. Saw some ticks at around 3.9k.






That's great to hear about the new Scimi.  Looking forward to it.

As far as LGS Ooze, how long does the debuff last and what's the cooldown?
  
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Reply #387 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 5:51pm
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Carpone wrote on Jul 8th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
Do you even Dire Charge, bro?  4 DEX > 4 CON. Boots should be either Piston Boots (hi2u 5 MP), or CC INS Combat Mastery +6 in the interim.  You don't need INS Diversion.  If you really want threat reduction for bosses, then slot the -50% threat filigree.

If you're going with Scion of the Ethereal Plane, then slot Diamond of Skill: Hide +15 and create triple AEM LGS belt for +39 DEX skills.  About the same HP as INS CON +7 once you slot a +2 INS CON augment.



Ins diversion is better than nothing and always helps if you don't want aggro (tempests really need that), certainly better than spell resis. Piston boots for a dex build would make no sense for only 5 mp. You don't want to waste a slot for that shit because you get much more from sl and cc. I replaced ins int on the trinket with ins combat mastery and QCon with QDex on the boots  Cool

btw t1 lgs won't stack with hide (competence) and you are forgetting parry from the cc belt  Roll Eyes
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Reply #388 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 5:58pm
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congrats yard your gear set still sucks ass
  
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Reply #389 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:11pm
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Reply #390 - Jul 11th, 2019 at 6:16pm
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No wonder your gear set sucks, you used up your brain power coming up with that mom joke
  
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No wonder my mom sucks, you used up your semen cumming up in her  Cheesy

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the floor on your stupidity sure dropped out quick  Shocked
  
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the floor on your stupidity sure dropped out quick  Shocked


stfu retard if you are still stuck in Motu on your bard you have nothing to say here   Grin
  
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:38am:
stfu retard if you are still stuck in Motu on your bard you have nothing to say here   Grin


Oh sorry you're a Darcat sock, now it makes sense why none of the shit you say makes sense.
  
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Reply #396 - Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:59pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 9th, 2019 at 11:04pm:
Had a chance to dps test on lama tonight and was pleased with the results. Peak times of 24 and 25 seconds. Up from my previous 30 seconds with Silent Set + Artifact.

Using the Sharn set up posted here : http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1533080274/312#312

I could adjust my AP to include more dps options ( namely rotational clickies ), but I am still on a more hp/prr orientated AP split.

Filigrees are 5pc Prowess + 4pc Shattered Device + 2pc Sucker Punch raid Rare + Sucker Punch MP.

Shattered Device is excellent now as it procs much more reliably, I would say somewhere around a 20% proc rate.

The new Scimitar is the top dps weapon concerning scimitars and rapiers. It beats Nightshard and Vulkor. 1d6 +3 x 8.25 trumps the others. My set up was Flow main for vacuum and Dust to start, then Ooze for one hit -> The Fractured Elegance.

Glass Shards is decent. Scales with Vacuum and prr debuffs. It also has, what seems to be around, a 5% crit chance for x2 damage. Saw some ticks at around 3.9k.



new scimi is broken af glass shards alone is INSANELY powerful but the drop rate will be fucking ridiculous and upgrading it is a pain in the asshole  Angry
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Reply #397 - Jul 14th, 2019 at 1:01pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:59pm:
new scimi is broken af

It is really good for Dexterity based builds. Only one problem that it has is that the Glass Shard proc will not tick for damage while it is being stacked. So you have to swap it out to get the damage ticks.

Tempests are still in a great spot right now. I have pushed a first life as far as it can go in terms of balancing survival and dps. With 47 reaper points, and Sharn gear, I am at : 220 PRR, 90 MRR, 94 Dex, 2500~ HP. And the absolute fastest time I recorded was 22.9 seconds. Measuring the dps at 21.8k peak and 20k average. Seeing as we are pretty much not getting any more crazy gear any time soon, then the dps won't be shooting up any higher until a new expansion. Or we get another artifact-type item.

I don't think it is possible to push that time down much lower. Especially not with the fate points that character has ( zero Epic Past Lives ). Consecrate twists would increase the kobold time, but I can't afford the twists. I have Symmetric/Meld/Cocoon/Sheath currently. Swapping Symmetric for Sense outside of raids.
  

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Reply #398 - Jul 14th, 2019 at 3:33pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 1:01pm:
It is really good for Dexterity based builds. Only one problem that it has is that the Glass Shard proc will not tick for damage while it is being stacked. So you have to swap it out to get the damage ticks.

Tempests are still in a great spot right now. I have pushed a first life as far as it can go in terms of balancing survival and dps. With 47 reaper points, and Sharn gear, I am at : 220 PRR, 90 MRR, 94 Dex, 2500~ HP. And the absolute fastest time I recorded was 22.9 seconds. Measuring the dps at 21.8k peak and 20k average. Seeing as we are pretty much not getting any more crazy gear any time soon, then the dps won't be shooting up any higher until a new expansion. Or we get another artifact-type item.

I don't think it is possible to push that time down much lower. Especially not with the fate points that character has ( zero Epic Past Lives ). Consecrate twists would increase the kobold time, but I can't afford the twists. I have Symmetric/Meld/Cocoon/Sheath currently. Swapping Symmetric for Sense outside of raids.


Isn't symmetric broken and only affects the base dmg of the weapon ?
  
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Reply #399 - Jul 14th, 2019 at 3:44pm
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yardarm_ wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 3:33pm:
Isn't symmetric broken and only affects the base dmg of the weapon ?


I’ve always wondered why no one usually recommends symmetric...  Been running with it (And sense weakness) but wondering if I’m wasting an expensive slot.
  
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