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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #450 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Couple of questions: Deconstructor If I have deconstructor slotted in both weapons, does the destruction on each proc on its own 3 second timer or they share the 3 second timer? Thus - if I switch from my one on each setup to only one what I lose is the adamantine bypass and construct bane, but I don�t slow down how fast the deconstruction stacks? Str vs Dex Regarding Str vs Dex, in the past I�ve heard �you can pump up Str more than Dex�. I�m trying to double check I�m not missing anything. As far as I can tell, the unique places you can get Strength and not Dex (that I would actually use) are; Rage (+2) or Primal Scream (+5), LD tiers (could likely allocate up to +4, although I�d trade off 60 hit points as I�ve been using them for Con), Raid filigree (+2), and Rams Might (+2). So that�s 10 to 13. The Dex offset is we get +4 for capstone, Enhancements (probably wouldn�t allocate more than +2). Total of 6. Anything I�m missing?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #451 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Deconstructor shares cooldowns. It takes me 2 haste boosts + 1k cuts to stack around 12 stacks. Same result on one or 2 weapons augmented.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #452 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	Thanks. I'm leaning towards your gear setup, which doesnt have devotion. Thinking it would be slotted in the offhand instead of putting a deconstructor on that one? How are you handling devotion?


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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #453 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:27pm	Print Post
	No. Each weapon stacks independetly which means you are applying 2 stacks every three seconds.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #454 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	yardarm_ wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:27pm: No. Each weapon stacks independetly which means you are applying 2 stacks every three seconds. That is demonstrably false. Go to the ship cannon, examine the cannon while attacking with one augmented weapon, and then try with 2 weapons augmented. If it were separate procs, it would not take you around 40 seconds to get both scenarios past 10 stacks. Makk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 8:27pm: How are you handling devotion? Belt swap for Ravenloft devotion belt, though having slavers on the belt completely ruins that hotswap as the belt only hotswaps to your neck slot due to slavers hybrid slot system. Slotting devotion is the only other way, but you will have to swap out weapons to bypass good + silver ( devils and pit fiends ). Which is a pain since I keep Decons on both weapons for Adam bypass in Sharn. Basic trash set up is decon + endless night/ decon + devotion. If you have a second sentient gem, then you can set up a secondary swap into Vulkor + good augment for both hands. If not then you can augment silver into your weapon and use Echo of Ravenkind for Good bypass. But you will be giving up adamantine for it. Gets much worse if you're solo. If trying to solo a high skull quest then taking silver bypass feat is probably the correct thing to do. As that will allow you to swap to Echo and get full damage on any weapon regardless of augments.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #455 - Aug 13^th, 2019 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	I got decon + endless night on flow and decon + endless night on nightshard which works fine so far
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #456 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 1:46am	Print Post
	You probably want to twist bound fate + grim fate now for max dps against bosses its AWESOME


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #457 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 7:46am	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2019 at 4:54pm: Couple of questions: Str vs Dex Regarding Str vs Dex, in the past I�ve heard �you can pump up Str more than Dex�.� I�m trying to double check I�m not missing anything. As far as I can tell, the unique places you can get Strength and not Dex (that I would actually use) are; Rage (+2) or Primal Scream (+5), LD tiers (could likely allocate up to +4, although I�d trade off 60 hit points as I�ve been using them for Con), Raid filigree (+2), and Rams Might (+2).� So that�s 10 to 13. The Dex offset is we get +4 for capstone, Enhancements (probably wouldn�t allocate more than +2).� Total of 6. Depends on the race and your racial past lives.� Scourge and Aasimar are popular because of healing hands; Scourge because of low hanging 5% DS.� Don't see many people doing Wood Elf, but it's a fantastic choice with 6% to hit and fairly easy to obtain 5% DS if you have some racial PLs. Scourge/Aasimar STR: 18 + 8 tome + 21 item + 10 i item + 4 q item + 5 primal scream + 2 LD + 1 exceptional + 2 guild + 2 profane + 1 horc PL + 2 ram�s might + 2 Tempest + 2 Scourge cores + 7 skill ups +3 filigree +2 yugo = 92. Scourge/Aasimar DEX: 18 base + 8 tome + 21 item + 10 i item + 4 q item + 1 exceptional + 2 guild + 2 profane + 1 halfling PL + 1 elf PL + 4 tempest capstone +2 tempest + 1 dws + 7 skill ups +3 filigree +2 yugo = 87 Wood Elf DEX: 20 base + 8 tome + 21 item + 10 i item + 4 q item + 1 exceptional + 2 guild + 2 profane� +1 halfling PL + 1 elf PL, +4 tempest capstone +2 tempest +1 dws + 2 wood elf cores� + 7 skill ups +3 filigree +2 yugo = 91 Not considered in calcs:+2 completionist, +2 racial completionist, +1 reaper core, + 3 reaper, +2 ability pot I only considered 2 STR in LD with the changes to Tactical Genius, which to me is now a no brainer to take.
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Ulysses Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 146 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #458 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	yardarm_ wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 1:46am: You probably want to twist bound fate + grim fate now for max dps against bosses its AWESOME This.� Also Shadowdancer is the new standard destiny IMO.
	« Last Edit: Aug 14^th, 2019 at 5:14pm by Ulysses »

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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #459 - Aug 14^th, 2019 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	Ulysses wrote on Aug 14^th, 2019 at 4:16pm: This.� Also Shadowdancer is the new standard destiny IMO. ROFL no LD is still ahead and i think i still prefer my old setup for max dps because every bard has bound already... 1. Sense Weakness 2. Balanced Attacks 3. Hail of Blows 3. Dance of flowers 4. cocoon
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #460 - Aug 15^th, 2019 at 9:15am	Print Post
	Updated gear post to include an option for maxed characters to utilize a superior gear set containing the LGS HP set. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1533080274/413#413

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #461 - Aug 16^th, 2019 at 12:49am	Print Post
	Fucking yes they broke every twist from primal avatar and nothing is working now. Fuck you steelstar and fuck your game SSG.


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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #462 - Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 1:01pm: Tempests are still in a great spot right now. I have pushed a first life as far as it can go in terms of balancing survival and dps. With 47 reaper points, and Sharn gear, I am at : 220 PRR, 90 MRR, 94 Dex, 2500~ HP. And the absolute fastest time I recorded was 22.9 seconds. Measuring the dps at 21.8k peak and 20k average. Seeing as we are pretty much not getting any more crazy gear any time soon, then the dps won't be shooting up any higher until a new expansion. Or we get another artifact-type item. On this post you had mentioned 94 Dex. Could you provide the breakdown? I�m coming up short by a couple on mine (92 assuming 3 dex points while on reaper, buffed with combat infusion and yugo - no past Life�s). Base 18 Tome 8 Levels 7 Item 21 Insight 10 Quality 4 Exceptional 1 Capstone 4 Tempest 2 DWS 1 Sentient 2 Reaper core 1 Reaper 3 Profane 2 Guild 2 Yugo 2 Combat Infusion 4


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #463 - Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 3:03pm: On this post you had mentioned 94 Dex.� Could you provide the breakdown?� I�m coming up short by a couple on mine (92 assuming 3 dex points while on reaper, buffed with combat infusion and yugo - no past Life�s). Base 18 Tome 8 Levels 7 Item 21 Insight 10 Quality 4 Exceptional 1 Capstone 4 Tempest 2 DWS 1 Sentient 2 Reaper core 1 Reaper 3 Profane 2 Guild 2 Yugo 2 Combat Infusion 4 2 DWS, and +22 Artifact

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #464 - Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	Cool, thanks. You still essentially running the enhancement split from that post near the begininng of this thread? I've been experimenting with Mark of the Hunted. I like it the additional debuff but it ties up a bit of APs.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #465 - Aug 23^rd, 2019 at 11:10am	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2019 at 7:36pm: Cool, thanks.� You still essentially running the enhancement split from that post near the begininng of this thread?� I've been experimenting with Mark of the Hunted. I like it the additional debuff but it ties up a bit of APs. Updated reaper ap and class ap : http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1533080274/49#49

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #466 - Aug 24^th, 2019 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	As Dex based I've been running Flow and Nightshard for trash/CC, with swapping the shard out for LGS Dust for bosses. (keeping Flow as the main/sentient). Ready to buy and fully upgrade the Nemesis raid scimi as a DPS swap for bosses instead of Vulkoors (the glass shard process when swapped out right? if so, if I'm swapping dust in every 8 seconds or so.. that should work?). If I switch to Str based, what should my weapon sets be for trash, etc? I'm able to craft Soulrazor (or upgraded Whelm.. not enough shism shards for both), have a Calamity, have Beacons Set, and have runes to buy the nemesis scimi and the THTH battle axe.


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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #467 - Aug 29^th, 2019 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Is the shattered device 4 piece working for melee? I heard it wasn�t. If it�s not, best current sentient setup for melee is.? (Prowess, Raid+one against many MP+sucker punch MP, 3 piece SD? Or maybe 2 piece treachery and another MP?) (If it is I�m assuming it�s prowess, raid+another MP, 4 piece SD)


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #468 - Aug 31^st, 2019 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Aug 29^th, 2019 at 8:40pm: Is the shattered device 4 piece working for melee?� I heard it wasn�t.� If it�s not, best current sentient setup for melee is.? (Prowess, Raid+one against many MP+sucker punch MP, 3 piece SD? Or maybe 2 piece treachery and another MP?) (If it is I�m assuming it�s prowess, raid+another MP, 4 piece SD) Yes. Makk wrote on Aug 24^th, 2019 at 6:43pm: If I switch to Str based, what should my weapon sets be for trash, etc?� I'm able to craft Soulrazor (or upgraded Whelm.. not enough shism shards for both), have a Calamity, have Beacons Set, and have runes to buy the nemesis scimi and the THTH battle axe. For max dps in a party setting where things are debuffed for you ; Razor + Whelm using Pulverize in LD. Solos or in random pugs would be Razor and the new battle axe for vacuum stacking. Makk wrote on Aug 24^th, 2019 at 6:43pm: As Dex based I've been running Flow and Nightshard for trash/CC, with swapping the shard out for LGS Dust for bosses. (keeping Flow as the main/sentient).� Ready to buy and fully upgrade the Nemesis raid scimi as a DPS swap for bosses instead of Vulkoors (the glass shard process when swapped out right?� if so, if I'm swapping dust in every 8 seconds or so.. that should work?). Yes, that is exactly how it works. The new scimitar is a dps upgrade over Vulkor and Nightshard. Even without the Glass Shards proc ticking. Also grab a Suffering. I assume Baba runes are plentiful by now. The rotation is minimally demanding, as it only needs to land a single hit for the Suffering/Ooze proc to work.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #469 - Aug 31^st, 2019 at 11:58am	Print Post
	Thanks very much for the tips Rubbins.� I did grab a Suffering.� My rotation is stacking Dust, switch to Suffering for a couple of hits, then switch to Nightshard (will be the raid scimitar when I grab it - can buy it now but before I spend the threads/mats waiting to see if I can get one to drop with a mythic bonus), then repeat after I count to 8 (in case the swap doesn�t take right away). I keep flip-flopping between sticking Dex based or switching to Str.� I need to do a few melee past lives (that for most I plan to have enough Ranger to keep Tempest Tier 5) so I�ll probably do a bit of both. Given I want to work through a few builds my gear set will be close to what yardarm / Carpone have.� Then all I need to do depending on primary stat is switch up the collective sight and maybe the ruby ring for a secondary stat for saves. Only thing I need to settle is if I go for crafted boots, piston boots - assuming the MP thing will be addressed at some point - or many hooked greaves).� Crafted will give me a little more resistance (12 vs the slotted 8 - or maybe reflex saves 12), I need to determine if I want that over the MP from piston or the tactics from the greaves. If I get piston I won�t need to slot strength on ruby ring (which was what i had planned for my dex setup, for fort saves, if I do crafted boots).. not sure what I out in there I�ll have int swaps covered by a collective sight set.�
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #470 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	Came up with this setup for STR builds Wildcard Light Armor [Family Set] : Fortification +214%/Physical Sheltering +54/Healing Amplification +85/False Life +81 Family Recruit Sigil Necklace [Family Set] : True Seeing/Armor Piercing +33/Deadly 17/Relentless Fury Hammerfist Gloves [Family Set] : Insightful Doublestrike +11/Diversion +33%/Seeker +21/Insightful Deadly +8 Legendary Umber Brim : Improved Quelling Strikes/Insightful Accuracy +16/Insightful Deception +8/Profane Well Rounded +2 Legendary Celestial Ruby Ring : INT +21 (nearly finished)/Stunning +23/Accuracy +33/Ghostly Slaver Ring : +45 Sheltering/+14 Deception/+14 Tendon Slice/+11 QMRR Legendary Precision Lenses : Insightful Strength +9/Alacrity +15%/Manslayer/Action Boost Enhancement +3 Brand of Kalok Shash : Strength +22/Quality Accuracy +8/Quality Deadly+5/Fire Absorption 53% Legendary Mantle of Fury : Constitution +19/Raging Resilience/Doublestrike 22%/Dodge +19% � � Trinket CC : Spell Saves +12/Parrying+7/Ins Stunning +8 Slaver Boots : +17 Wisdom/+14 Resistance/+22 Hide/+4 QCON Braided Cutcord : +19 Dex/+4 QDex/+5 QDodge/Blurry Weapons : Soulrazor(decon+devotion) & Flow(decon+meteor) Edit: final build and what i am using now
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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #471 - Sep 3^rd, 2019 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Aug 24^th, 2019 at 6:43pm: As Dex based I've been running Flow and Nightshard for trash/CC, with swapping the shard out for LGS Dust for bosses. (keeping Flow as the main/sentient).� Ready to buy and fully upgrade the Nemesis raid scimi as a DPS swap for bosses instead of Vulkoors (the glass shard process when swapped out right?� if so, if I'm swapping dust in every 8 seconds or so.. that should work?). If I switch to Str based, what should my weapon sets be for trash, etc?� I'm able to craft Soulrazor (or upgraded Whelm.. not enough shism shards for both), have a Calamity, have Beacons Set, and have runes to buy the nemesis scimi and the THTH battle axe. Try Razor+Flow (universal) the new battle axe is no match for flow lol
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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #472 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 9:10am	Print Post
	How does Shadowdancer stack up for a Dex based with the recent changes?


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yardarm_ Toothless Molehunter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 295 Joined: Aug 21^st, 2015	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #473 - Sep 5^th, 2019 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	Makk wrote on Sep 5^th, 2019 at 9:10am: How does Shadowdancer stack up for a Dex based with the recent changes? decent but you would have to to twist many things from LD and loose action hero...


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Makk Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 22^nd, 2018	Re: My Shitty Tempest Reply #474 - Sep 9^th, 2019 at 6:25pm	Print Post
	As far as augments for the trash weapons and boss weapons.. Deconstructor and endless night on trash (Flow) and deconstructor and ? for boss beater? What about meteoric star ruby?.. I had it while leveling but went away from it at cap While leveling, with a one slot weapons (drow weapon master set), endless night or meteoric star ruby?


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