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Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:01pm
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What's the drop rate/chance with this thing? Made 12 attempts at looting it from the rare spawn but not once did it drop. I don't know if it's been discussed before or not but so far i'm not having any luck.

Is it even worth farming or would I be better off waiting and waiting until one pops up in the AH?
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:03pm
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300 shards rerolling that chest to get one.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:03pm
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well it took me like 6 runs with 2 other friends to get it so...
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:31pm
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Distributed wrote on Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:03pm:
300 shards rerolling that chest to get one.


Well I guess I'm out of luck as I have just under 50 AS. The Nightforge dagger has been doing its job but I'm hoping I can get the sky dagger to compare and see how much of a difference there is.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:01am
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At 4+ while Swashbuckling you will notice the difference for sure.   

And at 6+ and Fighter Kensai Strike with No Thought.

If not SwashB or Kensai  then I believe the soonest you will see a difference is @ level 12+ with T5 VKF enh.

Regardless the Sky Pirate's Dagger crit profile will give the most benefit in Mid to High Heroic content (where there are many more options that make more sense for actual game play considering DR breaking)

In the long term (several builds planned around dagger) it might be worth doing some targeted farming and AS purchasing. 

For w/e build you have compare Crit mods vs character level that you get the mod vs weapons available.

In the short term it's a wash when you consider the effort to get.

  

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Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:41am
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Ioun wrote on Jun 19th, 2019 at 11:01pm:
What's the drop rate/chance with this thing?


5%

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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 11:22am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:41am:
5%


They can claim that, but I'd be surprised if it's that high.  I tried for the staff in heroic 3BC a few years ago and spent a lot of time and shards before giving it up.

Same with the rares on the way to the fire caves.  I hit them every life and have never seen a named item drop in their chests.

For the hell of it I tried for the dagger.  Hit the chest and rerolled (it's cheap at least) 3 times.  Twelve shots at it and it didn't drop.

Best bets going to use a mix of shards for rerolling and either duel boxing or recruiting some people for a few runs.  Good luck.
  

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Reply #7 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 12:09pm
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That fucking dagger.

Since Wilderness is always Normal, you're going to have the lowest drop rate. Even if it's 10%, you're still potentially going to do a lot of runs before you hit that.

Good luck to you!

(Took me about 20 chests before I got mine - not even counting the runs where the dude didn't show up to get killed)
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 12:23pm
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By the way, I think things like this and specific drops in annoying quests (like the scimitar and Falchion in Toxic Treatment - FUCK THAT QUEST) are the best use for the potions of get-named-items.
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 1:04pm
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Also you can throw iconics at it to bypass ransacking since it’s an easy low level explorer. Completing Scoundrel’s for the teleport on them is probably worth it too for the teleport.

Not sure on drop rate % but it feels pretty bad since the encounter itself seems to be less common than others.
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Reply #10 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 2:25pm
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Distributed wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 1:04pm:
Also you can throw iconics at it to bypass ransacking since it’s an easy low level explorer. Completing Scoundrel’s for the teleport on them is probably worth it too for the teleport.

Not sure on drop rate % but it feels pretty bad since the encounter itself seems to be less common than others.


Exactly! Out of about 22 runs, 12 of which had the optional actually up...

Never thought about getting through it with iconic though so that's a good idea.
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Reply #11 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 2:29pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
By the way, I think things like this and specific drops in annoying quests (like the scimitar and Falchion in Toxic Treatment - FUCK THAT QUEST) are the best use for the potions of get-named-items.


I couldn't believe how lucky I was with the falchion... pulled it first completion but my God that quest is annoying at level.

Those potions are only obtainable from gold rolls right? I see a few people use them but AFAIK they're not in the store besides the jewels.
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 2:58pm
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Ioun wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 2:29pm:
I couldn't believe how lucky I was with the falchion... pulled it first completion but my God that quest is annoying at level.

Those potions are only obtainable from gold rolls right? I see a few people use them but AFAIK they're not in the store besides the jewels.


2 of them are included in the new epic ottos box
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 4:53pm
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Wait for Sharn to be availae for points then watch them hit the store. It is s inky a matter of time.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 6:53pm
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Ioun wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 2:29pm:
I couldn't believe how lucky I was with the falchion... pulled it first completion but my God that quest is annoying at level.

Those potions are only obtainable from gold rolls right? I see a few people use them but AFAIK they're not in the store besides the jewels.


Thankfully, they are not in the store. Even SSG seems to think that would be too P2W.  (They are in the big Sharn set, though)
  
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Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:12pm
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Sharn is due in what, September? Can we get a guess on the increased named-loot options? I'd say a little bit above treasure hunter elixirs, give or take 200-300TP.
  
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Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:15pm
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Also a bit aggravated, just as I made the OP there was a Sky dagger on the AH for 10k... after getting in a bidding war and the price raising to 2m plat, (plat is still basically useless) I lost while I was at work. Sad times.

More 3BC grinding to come I suppose. Maybe I'll keep track of my total runs with/without the rare spawning, as well as how many chests need to be opened until I get it.... if DDO is still around by then.
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 1:17am
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Combine your SPD farming with running fire caves for xp. Complete fire cave, check on dagger, rinse repeat. Always reroll chest as only 3shards to reroll. Pull one about every other life this way just getting xp from level 4 to 6. One life pulled 2.
  
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Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:22am
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yer all nuts - its easy to get -
people dont want you to kno that

I am the Skypirate

hard to find him up tho
id tell ya more but eh why?
  
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Reply #19 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 7:11am
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Darcat wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:22am:
yer all nuts

I am the Skypirate


O wise one, please assist me in my quest to find the dagger you speak of.
  
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Reply #20 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 11:22am
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its 100AS on Thelannis AH.
So not that hard to get.
  
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Reply #21 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 2:32pm
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kozmo wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 11:22am:
its 100AS on Thelannis AH.
So not that hard to get.


Idk how often it pops up on the AH, but I've been looking for at least 2 weeks on Khyber and have only seen it once. Hopefully it pops up again.
  
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Reply #22 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:15pm
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kozmo wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 11:22am:
its 100AS on Thelannis AH.
So not that hard to get.


Damn. That's a nice chunk of AS for something that takes zero skill.

That's a pretty shitty drop rate if it's going for 100 AS.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:18pm
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Its 100 shards for you being lazy and not wanting to farm yourself Smiley
NOTpopejubal wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:15pm:
Damn. That's a nice chunk of AS for something that takes zero skill.

That's a pretty shitty drop rate if it's going for 100 AS.

  
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Reply #24 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 11:56pm
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I feel bad... friend joined me to help me farm.. we had to run the island 8 times before the rare encounter showed.. but we both got the dagger... and he passed his. Then a week later someone was selling a pair on the Plat exchange for 200k each...

yes please
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