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End-game nuking sorc gear set?
Aug 25th, 2019 at 11:00am
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My mediocre fire nuker is strong up to R7 so far and I'm not even close to optimal.   Has anyone figured out the ideal setup for a capped fire-nuker?
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2019 at 7:33pm
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Step 1- stop doing fire
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 12:18am
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the_biggest_dog wrote on Aug 25th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
Step 1- stop doing fire


I mean if you want shit AOE you stop doing fire.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 3:28pm
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Beer wrote on Aug 26th, 2019 at 12:18am:
I mean if you want shit AOE you stop doing fire.


Burst 1 shots on r10 in any element so why pay with shit single target in fire?
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 4:30pm
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Burst does 5k in R10 if you're on steroids. That ain't oneshotting shit
  

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Reply #5 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 4:31pm
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the_biggest_dog wrote on Aug 26th, 2019 at 3:28pm:
Burst 1 shots on r10 in any element so why pay with shit single target in fire?


Ice is certainly the best single target DPS. Fire has an option for medium armor that no other element has. Not relevant in all circumstances, but certainly some place like THTH it's highly desired.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 5:25pm
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Beer wrote on Aug 26th, 2019 at 4:30pm:
Burst does 5k in R10 if you're on steroids. That ain't oneshotting shit

run with better sorcs. 5k is a helpless non crit and I have 100% crit chance with 100 crit mult (which somehow still shows the occasional non-crit ssg fix your fucking shit)
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 26th, 2019 at 6:29pm
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the_biggest_dog wrote on Aug 26th, 2019 at 5:25pm:
run with better sorcs. 5k is a helpless non crit and I have 100% crit chance with 100 crit mult (which somehow still shows the occasional non-crit ssg fix your fucking shit)


nah you don't cause I got numbahs and dose numbas say what you got on average with everything monkey
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 9:22am
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Let's start here and see if we can optimize.
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Reply #9 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 11:19am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 27th, 2019 at 9:22am:
Let's start here and see if we can optimize.
(Ice + Electric)

Order's Garb
Dusk Lenses
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Reflection of Wave

5-piece Adherent of the Mists set
3-piece Esoteric Influence set

Mists very poor set, missing LGS crit, LGS dom set, shattered onyx, quality spell dc. This may be a good set to start with.

Goggles: Dusk Lenses
Helm LGS Int skills/Int Skills/cold guard
Neck: Sigil of Regalport
Trinket: Slavers False life, Resistance, Spell Focus Mastery, Qual Cha
Cloak: Legendary Scarlet Scale
Belt: Legendary Thrummingspark
Rings: Shattered Onyx Ins Cha, celestial sapphire con
Gloves: Crystalline Gauntlets
Boots: LGS triple crit damage
Bracers: aetherband
robe: orders garb
Weapons: Reflection of Wave, Suffering/Ash swap

Fili set up- 4 frozen wanderer, 3 Coal Magic, 4 Ottos. Shattered device on suffering. Augments to slot include vitality, ins con, globe of blood, topaz of evoc.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 10:02pm
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I agree with dog
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 10:41am
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the_biggest_dog wrote on Aug 27th, 2019 at 11:19am:
Mists very poor set, missing LGS crit, LGS dom set, shattered onyx, quality spell dc. This may be a good set to start with.

Goggles: Dusk Lenses
Helm LGS Int skills/Int Skills/cold guard
Neck: Sigil of Regalport
Trinket: Slavers False life, Resistance, Spell Focus Mastery, Qual Cha
Cloak: Legendary Scarlet Scale
Belt: Legendary Thrummingspark
Rings: Shattered Onyx Ins Cha, celestial sapphire con
Gloves: Crystalline Gauntlets
Boots: LGS triple crit damage
Bracers: aetherband
robe: orders garb
Weapons: Reflection of Wave, Suffering/Ash swap

Fili set up- 4 frozen wanderer, 3 Coal Magic, 4 Ottos. Shattered device on suffering. Augments to slot include vitality, ins con, globe of blood, topaz of evoc.


Almost identical to what I'm wearing.
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 31st, 2019 at 12:01pm
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I added some stuff and notes to Dog's list. I'm pretty sure we're close to BIS.

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Required Esoteric Set Pieces
Goggles: Dusk Lenses -> Upgrade to Attunement's Gaze to enable removing Nightmothers at no cost.
Bracers: Aetherband
Robe: Orders garb

Required pieces
Belt: Legendary Thrummingspark or Burnscar Sash
Neck: Sigil of Regalport
Rings: Shattered Onyx Ins Cha, celestial sapphire con

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At this point we're missing quality CHA and the LGS crit damage item. This means at least 1 slavers crafted item, and 1 LGS.
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Flexible Slots
Helm options/swaps:
a. Reaper stat helm
b. LGS
c.

Gloves options/swaps:
a. Spell absorb
b. LGS
c. Acid absorb gloves
d. Caster level gloves (+2 CL on Eburst / DB / polar ray, or ~5% more damage on them)

Trinket: Slavers False life, Resistance, Spell Focus Mastery, Qual Cha
Cloak: Legendary Scarlet Scale

Boots:
a. Slavers (You could also put slavers on trinket and swap it but IMO not worth, unless you don't mind 2 dc loss.)
b. LGS

Weapons options:
a. Nightmothers + Grab-bag LGS swap. No weapon lag from unequipping your sentient if you leave it on.
b. Reflection of Wave, LGS swap. Max dps setup but requires raid goggles to keep DCs higher.

Cloak swap slot:
a. Spell absorb / LGS

Trinket swap slot:
a. Spell absorb / Cannith crafted: healing amp, fire absorb, insightful con
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 31st, 2019 at 2:11pm
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Decent list, keep in mind raid goggles means you’re losing 70ish SP from insightful potency. That’s why I ended up going with scarlet scale for the insightful evoc mastery, and a bonus of quality con. If you had a reaper pansophic I’d be more comfortable with that, then throw the second LGS slot to cloak instead. Caster level is a stat often overlooked, part of the reason I love reflection so much. Think I’m casting burst at CL47 now. I will say I HATE swapping for ash constantly, but it fits into my raid DPS rotation pretty well. I don’t use it in regular questing situations
  

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Is ash stacking to 3? Wiki is listing it bugged but fuck if that page has been updated since shroud came out.
  

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Great point about potency. And cloak. I have my +2 reaper on the Cha helm from house J so I have potency on that.
  

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Yes ash only stacks to 3...dumb because dust stacks to 5 but whatever. It does function though, important part of my raid rotation. I am considering crafting an ooze wep so I don’t have to melee to apply suffering, especially since shattered weapon doesn’t even work
  

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Will craft ash then. Ty
  

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Noticed a typo in yer sig. Fixed.


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Sunken Slippers - Boots - (QUALITY INT WIS CHA) Lesser Displacement, Insightful Potency, Quality Potency


Looks like these will probably be going on tomorrow
  

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I got the itch to play Dragonborn and the only meta right now is Sorc.

So, my question is:

1) What's the maximum possible crit chance for Ice?

2) How well does it compare to Tiefling Fire sorc?

3) What's the verdict on Esoteric set? Is Hruit's influence comparable in any way?

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Reply #22 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 9:07am
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I don't like Hruit's. It requires heavy armor, so that gimps your dodge and gives you a PITA having to keep ASF reduction slotted constantly. Also the set bonus itself is inferior for a sorc in most ways. I guess it's the only way to get 10% artifact bonus to cold crit chance though.

Anyway, I'm going esoteric, and water savant is still best even without 10% artifact bonus to cold crit, because there is no equivalent for other elements to Greater Water Elemental Form on The Reflection of Wave:

"While in Water Elemental Form (Druid and Sorcerer both count for this), you benefit from 50 Exceptional Cold Spell Power, 20% Exceptional Cold Spell Lore, and you have 5 additional maximum/current Cold Spell caster levels"
  

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Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:01am:
I got the itch to play Dragonborn and the only meta right now is Sorc.

So, my question is:

1) What's the maximum possible crit chance for Ice?

100%

2) How well does it compare to Tiefling Fire sorc?

Better at endgame IF you have the upgraded wave. For leveling and ETRs, fire is better.

3) What's the verdict on Esoteric set? Is Hruit's influence comparable in any way?

Thank you for advice.

  

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Reply #24 - Dec 19th, 2019 at 9:59am
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:11pm:
For leveling and ETRs, fire is better.


Meh. Fire/acid has an advantage in clearing trash faster with fireball/acid blast from level 6-9. That's about it.
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