5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 9:59am:


It's also good for Evasion mobs when your DCs don't cut it because Meteor Swarm has some no-save damage that will eventually take them down.

That isn't going to matter as much if you have excellent DCs and you stack debuffing benefits on your spells, but it makes a huge difference if you are in a range where your DCs are mediocre.  YMMV.

NOTpopejubal wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 12:02pm:


Electric Loop
Electric Loop SLA
Shout
Ice Storm
Cyclonic Blast
Greater Shout

Cold Ray
Cold Ray SLA
Frost Lance
Disintegrate
Polar Ray

You're waiting until level 18 to kill archers?

Distributed wrote on Dec 19^th, 2019 at 1:01pm:


Empyrean Magic is pretty good. Is there any other advantage?

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 9:44am:

The damage output itself. You can clear most any group of mobs with one cast of swarm. “Old” epic quest mobs can survive due to having much more HP at the same level but that’s about it. Follow up with dbf and it’s done.

At first I thought I’d feel worse losing polar/iceberg on single target but not really turns out. Pretty similar with swarm being up more often than iceberg and dbf hitting harder than ice spells. SLAs are also nice.

Also noticed an improvement on SP management even when not holding back. Seems to consume far less for the same type of gameplay.

Swarm also deals nicely with immunities having 3 hits. No need to waste a cast anymore, just 1/3 of one.

The no save part helps a lot on high reflex mobs. New Borderland quests in particular where al the fucking goblins save all the time vs a 76dc at level 20.

Less fire immunities overall.

Probably much more but running out of time on lunch break.

Going fire improved my overall quest clear time significantly. Just started doing it also so had a lot of experience with cold in the first place and I have no reason to look back.

Linker wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 9:44am:


Holy shit you're a fucking retard

Linker wrote on Dec 25^th, 2019 at 10:37am:

You also lose the elemental immunity bypass.

Linker wrote on Dec 25^th, 2019 at 10:37am:


Are you gay, retarded, French, or all of the above?

the_biggest_dog wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 11:19am:


Bad, missing lots. Highlights are:
~6 DC ( 4 Insightful non-evoc, Spell focus->8/9, +1 quality cha )
~500 HP ( Insight con, 4 Oppo auguments, higher FL  )
~27 insightful Phys sheltering, 10 if not more quality PRR & MRR
~30% Heal lore, ~50 heal potency

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Dec 25^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:


I know from experience that you can play some pretty bad builds in R10 and be okay as long as you are piking.  Warforged Sorcerer with his gear is fine as long as you have a few other really solid players to carry most of the quest.

Linker wrote on Dec 26^th, 2019 at 10:00am:


Why the fuck would you choose HP over Crit Mult or Spell points LGS set on a Sorcerer?

Learn to play with nuking capabilities and in the back of the party where nothing will hit you.
The extra HP won't help you if everyone else in the party is down.

In my Experience around 1600 has been enough for me in R6-R7.
But that's also because i ran around in the Flamecleanse set with medium armor and 200 PRR (no prr EPLs yet) which is enough to survive 1 hit from a normal mob. If you get hit by a reaper or champ, ur dead, no matter what HP.

Learn to nuke in Intervals and not shoot fking barrages of spells which gets you aggro... like some idiots do...

Meteor Swarm is great,...but it's not amazing.

The casting animation is long, and quickening it gimps the damage output. So you get similar spell DPS in the same time frame by casting 2 AoE spells (take your pick: Chain Lightning, Ball Lightning, Otiluke's, Horrid Wilting, etc).

But yeah, if for some reason you are having a competition to do the most damage with one click, go with Meteor Swarm. Still sad it doesn't benefit from the savant bonus caster levels like normal spells.

NOTpopejubal wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 11:14am:


I'll have to check that out, but even quickened it is still a longer animation.


NOTpopejubal wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 11:14am:


It "gets" the caster levels, but the damage dice on Meteor Swarm do not scale with caster level in the first place, so there is no damage increase.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2020 at 11:24am:


They changed it to scale. Definitely check it out IMO.


Pope gave the rest of the advice better than I could have myself.


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5 Foot Step wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2020 at 11:06am:

Struggle would be exaggerating a bit, but you’ll clearly see a difference.

So, JUST DO IT ALREADY!