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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Strikes per second numbers question May 31^st, 2020 at 1:30am	Print Post
	I would like to ask the build-brain-trust what they think the best heroic build has the highest number of strikes per second? Damage doesn't matter, effects don't matter just the pure number of possible hits per second for a melee build.
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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Um, really? Reply #1 - May 31^st, 2020 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	Gosh I thought at least one of the big brains would cough these numbers right up. Good news is that I'll try, bad news I don't have much experience benchmarking. In the meantime, I'm open to any advice on how to investigate.


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crunch Stormreaver Piker Offline Posts: 745 Location: Europe Joined: Mar 20^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #2 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 1:39pm	Print Post
	https://ddowiki.com/page/Attack_speed Not a definitive answer (far from it), but it provides a basic skeleton and includes additional links to various tests over the years. Many things also changed over the years...


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 1:56pm	Print Post
	why don't you attempt to do this work yourself?


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	crunch wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 1:39pm: https://ddowiki.com/page/Attack_speed Not a definitive answer (far from it), but it provides a basic skeleton and includes additional links to various tests over the years. Many things also changed over the years... Thank you! harharharhar wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 1:56pm: why don't you attempt to do this work yourself? My last post said that I was, you must have missed that. Bishop wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 9:05pm: Good news is that I'll try, bad news I don't have much experience benchmarking.�


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #5 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 9:32pm	Print Post
	Great! My experience is in thrown attack speeds, and I find the best way is to just record video, and count swings in Slow Motion.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3470 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #6 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 12:17am	Print Post
	Bishop wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:30am: I would like to ask the build-brain-trust what they think the best heroic build has the highest number of strikes per second? Damage doesn't matter, effects don't matter just the pure number of possible hits per second for a melee build. You trying to come up with a viable melee zombie build post nerfs? LOL. It doesn't matter really. Nerf after nerf after nerf, the message is crystal clear. Devs hate zombie builds and don't want them to be viable


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #7 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 12:41am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 12:17am: You trying to come up with a viable melee zombie build post nerfs? LOL. It doesn't matter really. Nerf after nerf after nerf, the message is crystal clear. Devs hate zombie builds and don't want them to be viable Oh, I never ran a zombie before, I heard they were fun. What got me thinking about strikes per min was actually the new Shortsword, "Willbreaker". I looted two mythic ones and it got me thinking about it.


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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #8 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:53am	Print Post
	Bishop wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:30am: I would like to ask the build-brain-trust what they think the best heroic build has the highest number of strikes per second? Damage doesn't matter, effects don't matter just the pure number of possible hits per second for a melee build. TWF, obviously.

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Head-Meat 57%Misunderstood53%Moron Offline Subtle. I know. Posts: 9109 Joined: Nov 11^th, 2016	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #9 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:53am: TWF, obviously. Does twf with weps beat unarmed? Also, are wolves still a thing or no?
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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3470 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #10 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:30pm	Print Post
	Head-Meat wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:06pm: Does twf with weps beat unarmed? EZ. Head-Meat wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:06pm: Also, are wolves still a thing or no? It would be unBEARable.


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #11 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 4:17pm	Print Post
	Thanks for help peoples, I"m slowly working my way through tests. I had hoped to be able to set up a character who reduce mobs to helpless by whacking their wisdom to zero, but with the overall powercreep I keep killing them before I can! I guess it's a pretty flawed concept, but the strikes per minute is still really interesting problem.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #12 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	it should be as simple as: Getting an accurate timing of how long your character takes to do the full 4 swing animation Adding up all your doublestrike and offhand strike percentages to get a total % value for number of strikes (1+100 Doublestrike + 100% Offhand Strike + 40% Offhand Doublestrike = 340% or 3.4 hits per swing animation). If your swing animation take 1.5 seconds to complete, then you just divide (3.4*4 swings per animation)/1.5 = 9 Strikes per second


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Bishop Stormreaver Piker Offline Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky. Posts: 651 Joined: Oct 24^th, 2018	Re: Strikes per second numbers question Reply #13 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	Thanks!
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