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Reply #25 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 1:49am
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Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 12:52am:
See now why I have doubts?

Wiki can be wrong, too.

Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 12:52am:
And check what page exactly?



https://ddowiki.com/page/Non-standard_attack_and_damage_mods

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When two abilities are listed (comma separated), it means it will use the highest one.


You cannot benefit from both stats stacking directly. And in the very unusual case of there being a tie ; it wouldn't matter since the numbers would be the same.
  

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Finally, Thank you!  Smiley
  
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Reply #27 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 2:00am
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 1:49am:
You cannot benefit from both stats stacking directly. And in the very unusual case of there being a tie ; it wouldn't matter since the numbers would be the same.



EOEOEOEOEOEOEO!

Somebody ordered a truck load of common sense?

I bet brainfArtori would still struggle with this novel concept.

imagine gimping yourself so hard to tie your stats?

EOEOEOEOEOEOEO!
  

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Alex DeLarge wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 1:22am:
What results?

You're beyond redemption and in no position to make demands.

Normally I'd tell you to "git gud" but its beyond your capacity in this cas... or any case


Mad cuz bad much? All you have done is insult but you have displayed no knowledge of the game in this thread. Next time I will offer you a coffee, with "cream", just the way you like it.

Someone who knows stuff just answers, maybe he/she will mock but while Rubbinns ultimately posted the answer you have shown what you know about the game playing the asshole without an answer, it's ok. You didn't knew the answer but I forgive you, fuck off now (or keep posting, like i give a fuck)
  
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Reply #29 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 2:48am
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Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 2:03am:
Mad cuz bad much? All you have done is insult but you have displayed no knowledge of the game in this thread. Next time I will offer you a coffee, with "cream", just the way you like it.

Someone who knows stuff just answers, maybe he/she will mock but while Rubbinns ultimately posted the answer you have shown what you know about the game playing the asshole without an answer, it's ok. You didn't knew the answer but I forgive you, fuck off now (or keep posting, like i give a fuck)


Stupid questions - stupid answers.

I'm not here to spoon feed you readily available info.

I'm just here to be entertained.

Keep being a good little monkey and dance for me, brainfArto )))
  

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Reply #30 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:05am
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 11:12pm:
How do you lack so much self-awareness? How hard is life for you? By the time it took you to have your slow thought register, posted a thread and replied in it, you could have wiki'd your answer.

But you're just so blatantly fucking idiotic that you sit here getting abused while awaiting an answer..

What's your next question going to be here, big man? WhaT IF thE sTATs aRE TIeD??


you want to see my dps? here is an entire thread from u39 that beats you all the way into u47...

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1529456087



Don’t encourage him, nerfs are just about to be sent out

Idk, followed the forums for a coupla years and Rubins is the guy who acts better than anyone else, then posts other peoples builds when confronted,

Fair play, but idk what’s the point of looking good on a DDO forums, especially after a while people realise the trash.

The vault for me has always been those builds that are really OP, and sometimes they post those builds, but rubins has always been the guy to say he’s got that super secret build which is “the best” but hasn’t actually been the first guy to show a build off ever.

Tbh it pissed me off, but idk after a while it became clear he’s just the a guy who stalks DDO forums 24/7 so he finds decent builds on the forums before me, then posts them as a “I used this guys guild but made it better, not telling you or showing your how or why I’m better, but look how many DDOVAULT posts I have, so that must mean I know what I’m doing”
  
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Reply #31 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:37am
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newalchemist wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:05am:
Don’t encourage him, nerfs are just about to be sent out

Idk, followed the forums for a coupla years and Rubins is the guy who acts better than anyone else, then posts other peoples builds when confronted,

Fair play, but idk what’s the point of looking good on a DDO forums, especially after a while people realise the trash.

The vault for me has always been those builds that are really OP, and sometimes they post those builds, but rubins has always been the guy to say he’s got that super secret build which is “the best” but hasn’t actually been the first guy to show a build off ever.

Tbh it pissed me off, but idk after a while it became clear he’s just the a guy who stalks DDO forums 24/7 so he finds decent builds on the forums before me, then posts them as a “I used this guys guild but made it better, not telling you or showing your how or why I’m better, but look how many DDOVAULT posts I have, so that must mean I know what I’m doing”



OMG, you poor bastard, what have you done?

May God have mercy upon your soul.
  

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Reply #32 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:52am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:37am:
OMG, you poor bastard, what have you done?

May God have mercy upon your soul.


Beautiful, just beautiful.
  
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Reply #33 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 8:43am
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noamineo wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 10:59pm:
If I understand correctly(and admittedly thats kind of a big "if") then you use whenever stat is highest. So ninja spy says you CAN use your dexterity, but if falconry says you can use your wisdom and your wisdom is highest, then that's what you'll use.



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Reply #34 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 8:58am
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Artorias wrote on Sep 9th, 2020 at 8:56pm:
Also, feel free to dispense some wisdom (see what I did? Roll Eyes) on how to play an effective monk and, for fuck sake, don't say "don't play monk". Last time I played one was around the time DoJ dropped...I think

Oh yeah, I'm going to use handwraps (I have a very impressive collection of both handwraps and melee quarterstaves)



I played Monk for a good while. I recall having an AC monk in the 20 cap days and AC tanking VOD/TOD. Good times.

In the current game, monk dps is good (not great), and their tactics are great (best part of monk). Their most glaring drawback is MRR. It all works at lower levels. They're fun, they're fast, etc. But, when you start getting into reaper the MRR is a problem. You have to be extra good at positioning, managing aggro, and picking targets to make it work well. Even then, you're just get one-shot more often. This isn't theoretical. I run stuff with a friend who plays a monk. He's a better player than me, and he dies more often, and I get more kills. He also has more Reaper points by like 40%. So...

Monks HAVE to use a filigree set for MRR that locks them out of more dps, and even then their MRR is 1/2 or less than 1/2 of the armor-wearing dps toons.

I'm talking about pure wis handwrap monks here. I don't know much about staff builds except that their dps is probably worse. The rest applies.


Bottom line: They're fun and they work in everything R1 and below. If that's your goal, have fun! (No sarcasm). As it gets higher tier, you become more of a crappy bard. Support the party with tactics, minor buffs, and heals. That's my take.

I really enjoyed my Quivering Palm DC monk before they nerfed QP. You can still play them like that. You just have to build around that heavily.

Played an R1 Shroud the other night with a top-tier monk like you describe (even better than my friend), and he got one-shot at the beginning of Part 4 from trash mob. Now, tbf, that was also a lag spike--because SSG. But, it revealed again how monk defenses are sub-par in reaper. 

  


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Re: Summon monk savant
Reply #35 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 9:58am
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Only Monk question I have is who counts as the source of Fists of Light for healing party members?

Does it count as a character healing itself (like with Vampirism?) and therefore reduced with Reaper?
Or does it count as the enemy healing them and therefore increased with Reaper?
Or does it count as being cast by the Monk and therefore reduced for the Monk, but stays normal for the rest of the party?

Thinking of making a character that's dedicated to debuffing and party support to bring to raids and Monk might be an option depending on how Fists of Light finishing move works. Probably not because of the MRR issue that's extra bad in raids, but might consider it.
  
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Reply #36 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 10:04am
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Also, why the FUCK can't we have 3 pieces of information listed for every goddamn ability and action in the game.

Source of the effect (character, enemy, etc)
type of effect (enhancement, insight, etc)
and Does It Fucking Work on Goddamn Red Named Fucking Bosses
  
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Reply #37 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 10:45am
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newalchemist wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:05am:
rubins has always been the guy to say he’s got that super secret build

You're going to have to find that quote. Shouldn't be hard since I have all these posts everywhere for you to pick from.


newalchemist wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 5:05am:
so he finds decent builds on the forums before me

This must weigh really heavily on you. In your handicapped little head ; opening a forum on your phone for 2 minutes is hard, I know, and I can respect your lack of basic life skills such as using the internet, reading, writing, coherent thoughts and structure, communicating clearly, being likeable, having a functioning reproductive system, and not eating lead. I can train you through most of these for free.

And where have I posted mobo builds as my own? That is another wild fantasy you will have to find and quote me on, since it is what pisses you off so much.

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Reply #38 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 1:12pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 10:04am:
Also, why the FUCK can't we have 3 pieces of information listed for every goddamn ability and action in the game.

Source of the effect (character, enemy, etc)
type of effect (enhancement, insight, etc)
and Does It Fucking Work on Goddamn Red Named Fucking Bosses


Its a combination of lack of public information from SSG and the guy who writes the wiki being a dumbfuck. Same reason why simple, valuable information like "When two abilities are listed (comma separated), it means it will use the highest one." can be so difficult to find. What we veteran players accept as common knowledge does sometimes need to be confirmed, and needs to be someplace accessible.

Also, as I've observed: ALL the information about mobs on the wiki is is basically fucking useless. I don't think its been updated since pre-motu and none of it was accurate then.
  

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Reply #39 - Sep 10th, 2020 at 3:22pm
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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 8:58am:
I played Monk for a good while. I recall having an AC monk in the 20 cap days and AC tanking VOD/TOD. Good times.

In the current game, monk dps is good (not great), and their tactics are great (best part of monk). Their most glaring drawback is MRR. It all works at lower levels. They're fun, they're fast, etc. But, when you start getting into reaper the MRR is a problem. You have to be extra good at positioning, managing aggro, and picking targets to make it work well. Even then, you're just get one-shot more often. This isn't theoretical. I run stuff with a friend who plays a monk. He's a better player than me, and he dies more often, and I get more kills. He also has more Reaper points by like 40%. So...

Monks HAVE to use a filigree set for MRR that locks them out of more dps, and even then their MRR is 1/2 or less than 1/2 of the armor-wearing dps toons.

I'm talking about pure wis handwrap monks here. I don't know much about staff builds except that their dps is probably worse. The rest applies.


Bottom line: They're fun and they work in everything R1 and below. If that's your goal, have fun! (No sarcasm). As it gets higher tier, you become more of a crappy bard. Support the party with tactics, minor buffs, and heals. That's my take.

I really enjoyed my Quivering Palm DC monk before they nerfed QP. You can still play them like that. You just have to build around that heavily.

Played an R1 Shroud the other night with a top-tier monk like you describe (even better than my friend), and he got one-shot at the beginning of Part 4 from trash mob. Now, tbf, that was also a lag spike--because SSG. But, it revealed again how monk defenses are sub-par in reaper. 




Good advice, thanks. Yeah this is just a quick life I'm using to get a racial feat so I'll be zerging in R1 most of the time. Bit of an OT but I decided to get RPL as those Stats and free racial AP are just too good and I already have almost all class and epic PL anyway.

Been ages since I last played a monk so I figured I'd give one more try.
  
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FYI, while we are learning about stats, modifiers and all that ddo stuff.  It turns out there is an entire subforum here on the vault devoted to specific allocations of classes, stat points, enhancement trees, you know all that ddo stuff.  Turns out the ddo players refer to these combinations and point allocations as "builds".  Once you have finished cluttering up the main discussion forum at some point you can try out the appropriate subforum.  Rubbins has other assholes to tear open now that yours is the new crater lake...

Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 3:22pm:
Good advice, thanks. Yeah this is just a quick life I'm using to get a racial feat so I'll be zerging in R1 most of the time. Bit of an OT but I decided to get RPL as those Stats and free racial AP are just too good and I already have almost all class and epic PL anyway.

Been ages since I last played a monk so I figured I'd give one more try.

  
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Reply #41 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:52pm
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Fuckity fuck fuck, fuckity fuck fuck, look at retards go!
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 10:45am:
You're going to have to find that quote. Shouldn't be hard since I have all these posts everywhere for you to pick from.


This must weigh really heavily on you. In your handicapped little head ; opening a forum on your phone for 2 minutes is hard, I know, and I can respect your lack of basic life skills such as using the internet, reading, writing, coherent thoughts and structure, communicating clearly, being likeable, having a functioning reproductive system, and not eating lead. I can train you through most of these for free.

And where have I posted mobo builds as my own? That is another wild fantasy you will have to find and quote me on, since it is what pisses you off so much.

LMK if you need anymore help


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Tspoon wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 11:45am:
FYI, while we are learning about stats, modifiers and all that ddo stuff.  It turns out there is an entire subforum here on the vault devoted to specific allocations of classes, stat points, enhancement trees, you know all that ddo stuff.  Turns out the ddo players refer to these combinations and point allocations as "builds".  Once you have finished cluttering up the main discussion forum at some point you can try out the appropriate subforum.  Rubbins has other assholes to tear open now that yours is the new crater lake...



You're beating a dead horse like your unused penis. Fucking gaming addicts don't know DDO is a walking can of shit that the next developer pops a squat over. The inmates are running the asylum. I don't know what's worse. DDO's management or the USA's. LOW IQ PEOPLE THINK PROMETHEUS WAS A GOD OMEGALUL
  

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Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 3:22pm:
Good advice, thanks. Yeah this is just a quick life I'm using to get a racial feat so I'll be zerging in R1 most of the time. Bit of an OT but I decided to get RPL as those Stats and free racial AP are just too good and I already have almost all class and epic PL anyway.

Been ages since I last played a monk so I figured I'd give one more try.


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Also, why the FUCK can't we have 3 pieces of information listed for every goddamn ability and action in the game.

Source of the effect (character, enemy, etc)
type of effect (enhancement, insight, etc)
and Does It Fucking Work on Goddamn Red Named Fucking Bosses


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Head-Meat wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 8:58am:
I played Monk for a good while. I recall having an AC monk in the 20 cap days and AC tanking VOD/TOD. Good times.

In the current game, monk dps is good (not great), and their tactics are great (best part of monk). Their most glaring drawback is MRR. It all works at lower levels. They're fun, they're fast, etc. But, when you start getting into reaper the MRR is a problem. You have to be extra good at positioning, managing aggro, and picking targets to make it work well. Even then, you're just get one-shot more often. This isn't theoretical. I run stuff with a friend who plays a monk. He's a better player than me, and he dies more often, and I get more kills. He also has more Reaper points by like 40%. So...

Monks HAVE to use a filigree set for MRR that locks them out of more dps, and even then their MRR is 1/2 or less than 1/2 of the armor-wearing dps toons.

I'm talking about pure wis handwrap monks here. I don't know much about staff builds except that their dps is probably worse. The rest applies.


Bottom line: They're fun and they work in everything R1 and below. If that's your goal, have fun! (No sarcasm). As it gets higher tier, you become more of a crappy bard. Support the party with tactics, minor buffs, and heals. That's my take.

I really enjoyed my Quivering Palm DC monk before they nerfed QP. You can still play them like that. You just have to build around that heavily.

Played an R1 Shroud the other night with a top-tier monk like you describe (even better than my friend), and he got one-shot at the beginning of Part 4 from trash mob. Now, tbf, that was also a lag spike--because SSG. But, it revealed again how monk defenses are sub-par in reaper. 



Now that I'm collecting scalps with my ass checks making words out of farts, I suppose I need to have one final, loving, insult.

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Reply #47 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 7:39pm
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Artorias wrote on Sep 10th, 2020 at 12:52am:
pump your main stat around 80 and a secondary to 50 or so. Let's do some basic math and it becomes 80 as main stat + 40 (as we ignore the first 10 points) from the secondary. 


WHAT?

How long have you been playing DDO?

Try here:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/81-New-Player-Advice-amp-Guidance
  
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Re: Summon monk savant
Reply #48 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 7:39pm
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Foppy, take two tonight, you missed a dose, or maybe take 3?
WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 4:59pm:
Now that I'm collecting scalps with my ass checks making words out of farts, I suppose I need to have one final, loving, insult.


  
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Re: Summon monk savant
Reply #49 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 8:32pm
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Farmer wrote on Sep 11th, 2020 at 7:39pm:


Hi, welcome!

You are one of those idiots who doesn't even bother reading the full post I see. Those are numbers I claimed are very possible to get with the new gear and, even higher number, are very well withing buildable options. Oh yeah, in case you didn't read the whole post....

HI, WELCOME!
  
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