GEM wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:57pm:


What would be better depends a lot on the party composition and also on your playstyle.

A DC caster in a party is great.  Two is good back-up.  Three is usually not a good trade-off versus more DPS.

If there's no other DC caster, play a DC caster.  If there's 2 other casters, play DPS.  If there's one other caster, play whichever you enjoy more.

Are you looking to do any raid healing?

NOTpopejubal wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 1:49pm:



Wall/Aura are good for SP preservation.

"raid healers" tend to have above average defense/HP now, too.

NOTpopejubal wrote on Jan 20^th, 2021 at 7:11pm:


What about undead? I'm sure somewhere there's a paleshroud cleric build.

GEM wrote on Jan 18^th, 2021 at 6:57pm:


I played this almost 2 years ago.

To this day there has been zero changes to either Cleric class, trees, domains, turn undead or even Exalted Angel ED to help them catch up to the current meta. At least they fixed ED wings to not be gay compared to FvS class granted ones.
However, DC casting in reaper has gotten harder for all casters across the board.

FvS class surpasses Cleric in every department even if they grab Healing Wall T5 in Beacon tree.

At least new shifter race with wisdom-based raging can currently surpass Aasimars in DC department. Enjoy looking like an underdeveloped hunchback with furs LMAO!

In order to build a proper Death Domain Cleric you need to consider if you're going to handicap your build with 32APs in Radiant tree for Radiant Aura or not. This will lock you out of Divine Disciples T5s that would provide more DC. Also, Aura's range is pretty small, so you basically have to be near melee range at all times which in turn might get you cleaved or AoE splash damaged. Aura saves a lot of SP that you'd spend on healing tho.

Enlarge is a must, especially on SLAs and healing spells.

Deity: Follower of Aureon. Clickie lasts for 144 seconds is useful for tough mob fights, but the 10 min cd sucks ass and you need to consider when and where to use it.

Nightmother's stick with Otto + Beholder sets + x2 raid Wis 2 filis at the bare minimum.
Alchemical mithral large shield with +2 wisdom.

Even so, after literally maxing out every possible DC via gear, twists, proper feat selection it wont be enough for R10 Fey or Sharn.
Just gotta accept it.
Fall back to CC spells like Soundburst and Cometfall (your conjuration will be the lowest, so only only on mobs with low reflex like skellies and scarecrows) with occasional Implosions and Mass Frogs and focus on healing.

Use LGS affirmation swap for self-heals on R10.


Here's a thread with probably the most up-to-date gear (sans Fey):
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506035-High-reaper-Charn-cleric-gear?p...

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 4:41am:


Isn't 138 the DC high-water mark for the high-Fort brutes in Sharn? 

A maxed out Death Cleric could probably have an always-on Necro DC around 138 these days, and that's without using any of 3 or 4 potential temporary DC boosts.

(And you don't need anywhere near 138 for most mobs.  On a very different build, non-maxed-out, non-Cleric, non-Necro, I find a 118 Necro landing regularly on R10 Sharn caster & archer types.  I don't bother trying to instakill the high-Fort mobs with that though.)

I haven't run Feywild yet; are it's mob saves even higher than Sharn, or about the same?

SirValentine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 11:21am:


I was taking OP's situation into consideration.

He hasn't unlocked Class completionist yet, let alone Epic or Racial. He won't have the luxury that Max PLs provide for DC builds.

SirValentine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 11:21am:


That's probably the only reason DC cleric is viable at all, always target mob weakest saves and pray your D20 carries you halfway.


SirValentine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 11:21am:


Some Fey mobs are even higher.


SirValentine wrote on Jan 21^st, 2021 at 11:25am:


Investing in 4th school just for 1 spell might be a bit of a stretch goal on OP's build but it does work really well on appropriate mobs.

I just wish Divine Disciple had more universal DC support b/c having your best spells in all the different schools badly handicaps clerics and fvs.