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So finally made racial completionist...
Jan 28th, 2021 at 12:55pm
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I have always been a human strength tempest ranger.  That issue aside, I have a newer more important issue. With new points to spend in the racial tree (13 plus the recent popular +2 tome purchase), I decided that I hate the human racial tree. 

So, I went scourge to try it out and felt the maces were lackluster and felt obligated to use maces having put so many points into the racial mace  enhancements.  (Beacon set, lamplighters, KT mace) The steep cost also caused a self inflicted a ban of using my other non mace weapons which left me feeling incomplete, not a whole ranger. Plus the con/fortitude racial along with other lack luster racial enhancements made it feel like it could be more.  The extra favored enemy was one of the best parts of that race to me.

So I went aasimar.  The talents are geared toward strength, and the tree has the best parts of the human tree (healing amp) and a decent racial ability.  I didn’t use the hit against evil which wasn’t obvious at first.  I don’t miss very often if ever so it seemed points could be better spent elsewhere.  I like it so far.  Seems to compliment the class better than the race that was purposely made to be this class. 

Anyone else mess around with this combo? Got any build info that worked well for you? Did I miss something that makes the scourge better?
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2021 at 1:06pm
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Mattyo wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 12:55pm:
Anyone else mess around with this combo? Got any build info that worked well for you? Did I miss something that makes the scourge better? 



I know a WC/SB bard that runs light mace scourge for the crit multi which stacks with swash. He has solid dps. If you can time the scourge divine form thing, that's some pretty nice dps bonus too.

  


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Lamplighter + scourge + knights training feat should be pretty solid.
  


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crits would be  18x4 19-20x5
  


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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2021 at 1:36pm
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Twin Lamplighters? Seems like a waste.

A Lamplighter-Everstorm pairing seems like it would make more sense for a Scourge.
  

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Scourge is a trap.   

Normal assimar is better.

STR battle axes with Knights training.

  
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Bigjunk wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 4:30pm:
Scourge is a trap.   

Normal assimar is better.

STR battle axes with Knights training.



Yeah I'm with bigjunk, scourge is just not great but the actual assimar has a lot more capability/versatility. Really better than humans.
  

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My lamp/beacon/KT mace were x4 multiplier with knights training.  I haven’t done dreadnaught  tho.  I like having a lot of haste boosts so I have been playing with running Fatesinger with 6 strength and twisting symmetric strikes, balanced attacks, action boost haste, flowers and extra action boost.  That gives me 14 charges for boosts.  I only use haste for the most part even when I have other boosts, I only use em if haste is out.  That haste boost with the Fatesinger extra 3% and the 15% alacrity item makes anything else slow to me now. Like torturous slow.

Bigjunk,

You using two thth axes?  Or just using misc off hands swapping in per need as usual?

I used the 2 lamps because of luck of the draw.

Anyway the scourge wasn’t a push over, just not as nearly as good as regular aasimar so far.  No synergy if you are switching over from a non mace spec char. 

Does the 5% paralyze on the light hammers from baba or strahd any good on anything high end?
  
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Congrats on your racial completionist!
  

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Thanks. If a game could be work.....
  
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Mattyo wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 8:44pm:
Thanks. If a game could be work.....


I will admit I should have had more fun gaining racial completionist. Its those damn XP potions making you feel like you're not "getting" your monies worth unless you zerge...
  

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I'd wait for the new raid mace, which has dust, and use lamplighter with fetters. For max single target dps go 12ranger\6 barbie(T5)\2 cleric
Scourge and LD for max criticals
For Strikethrough, go pure 20 ranger scourge. Rangers become OP again
  
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The nice thing about scourge is that it's the one build that can deviate from the Part of the Family set monopoly and use more feywild gear...IF you embrace the beacons set. Just swing your DR breakers full time. Dust? Fetters? Pfft, that shit sounds like somebody else's job. Only 1 character out of 6 (or 12) needs to be debuffing.
  

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Mattyo wrote on Jan 28th, 2021 at 5:35pm:
Bigjunk,

You using two thth axes?  Or just using misc off hands swapping in per need as usual?

I used the 2 lamps because of luck of the draw.

Anyway the scourge wasn’t a push over, just not as nearly as good as regular aasimar so far.  No synergy if you are switching over from a non mace spec char. 

Does the 5% paralyze on the light hammers from baba or strahd any good on anything high end?


Off-hand is either Dust Greensteal or the Blackrazor (whatever the one-hand version is called).   The Khopesh from the to-be-released raid will become the main-hander if it ever come out.

When soloing I still will often use the Flow as my main weapon, the guard-breaking is good enough to take the DPS hit.   

I've never used those light-hammers so I cannot comment.
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 30th, 2021 at 12:50pm
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Hey Big,

Is that new khopesh the only vorpal/keen version?  I don’t remember seeing any legendary versions anyway.   

At right around 65 reaper points I find using dual flows in reaper 8-10’s is well worth the damage trade off for survivability.  It lets me take out targets pretty consistently and with haste up I can use strikethrough to keep small groups pacified to take out or until I can get help.

Doogy,  I have never multiclassed.  I’ve been a stubborn sob so far.. Your suggestion seems intriguing.

5 Foot Step, I cannot take all of what you say I. The right context yet because I don’t have the details yet.  I said I would get it after I finished completionist so I could do the 3 iconic past lives for the passives.  It sounds like with the right stuff scourge could work but I just haven’t seen it yet in my experience.   Ranching off from rigid set parameters sounds refreshing.  I been trying to work in  The new raid gear sets for more augment slots, but the overlapping set bonuses with sharn beat has made me more hesitant.  I got a tharne’s bracer in the mix but am hesitant to trade out my precision lenses for the goggles because of my precious action boosts!
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 12:26pm
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Well...I agree that pretty much everyone that can use Flow should take Imp Crit Pierce and use it/them to keep high-skull trash daze-locked.

What I meant is that that all you really need is 2x keen metalline good boss beaters (like Vulkoor's Edge or Beacon of Day) for DPS. (And Flow can double as your evil+chaos DR breaker)

Bringing debuffers is bonus points for being a good citizen.
  

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Reply #16 - Jan 31st, 2021 at 2:36pm
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I use those exact metalline weapons not knowing that they were any good. At first I swapped out entire weapon sets instead of just the main hand for any weapon changes.    Then I got more smarterer and only did the offhand.   But, Getting 150 sentient xp on all the rest of my main hand weapons was still the funnerest. 

I originally got those weapons when I couldn’t do any damage on the griffon lion demon thing in the gatekeepers newish quests.  And those stupid witches.  Who has bags for all this shit? 

Here is a dumb question:  what chat setting do I enable so I can see the de of monsters?  My combat chat just says that I did no damage and that’s it.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 10:18am
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It's in combat chat. If it's reduced to zero, I don't think you get DR feedback. Look for a crit that gets through.  Some DR can't be bypassed normally (like elementals). And sometimes you'll get yellow numbers but no DR feedback, that means the monster has PRR. And for extra confusion, some bosses have both DR and PRR (like the boss of Trials of the Archons, so so combat chat will tell you DR/evil, but you still get yellow numbers when using an evil-aligned weapon). Used to be getting dual Celestias was a big deal, if you didn't add any enhancement bonus to it, the light type would bypass all PRR and DR, but that's not such a priority anymore since PRR debuffs are widely used.
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 3rd, 2021 at 10:26am
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That explains a lot.  I appreciate the info.
  
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