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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2021 at 12:50pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Apr 16th, 2021 at 8:09pm:
I want to be saved. What is your version delarge?


Aasimar 18ftr/1fvs/1x  wicked blade or dull dagger (VKF capstone and Kensei T5s).

The only build that can use of Cleave and G.Cleave w/o wanting to slash your own wrists, also your main source of AoE.
  

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Reply #26 - Apr 17th, 2021 at 12:51pm
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The raw numbers in the pics are higher than mine.  But he has about 30 more strength than me.  The Hp are higher too. I prioritize some things over Hp, but I don’t ever drop below 2k standing in the market place on any build variation. With 80 rp I am usually 2700-2900 self buffed in reaper.  So there are pluses to this “Tronko” build.  But I prioritize DPS and as a close second,  versatility.   Since I probably will never have a shit ton of hp, I’m playing with lots of dodge and am usually about 29-30% which lets me get a little more risky when I get backslapped for getting too happy, but not enough to maintain taking damage.

I guess what I really need to know are reaper mechanics and what stats counteract them.  I know melee power is god right now but at the cost of what other stats?
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2021 at 3:12pm
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So, is there a way to get analytical data on soon reapers and the reaper difficulty reductions to damage?  Anyone have a link?
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 4:00am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Aasimar 18ftr/1fvs/1x  wicked blade or dull dagger (VKF capstone and Kensei T5s).

The only build that can use of Cleave and G.Cleave w/o wanting to slash your own wrists, also your main source of AoE.


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Reply #29 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:23am
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Smrti wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 4:00am:
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18FTR/1FvS/1Barb

1 Barb for the run speed

1 FvS for Divine Might

18 Fighter for all the damage.
  

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Reply #30 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:26am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Apr 17th, 2021 at 12:50pm:
Aasimar 18ftr/1fvs/1x  wicked blade or dull dagger (VKF capstone and Kensei T5s).

The only build that can use of Cleave and G.Cleave w/o wanting to slash your own wrists, also your main source of AoE.


Cleave is vastly inferior to Dance of Death.
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:51am
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:26am:
Cleave is vastly inferior to Dance of Death.



SWF >>>>>>> TWF.

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Reply #32 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:58am
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Technomage wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:23am:
18FTR/1FvS/1Barb

1 Barb for the run speed

1 FvS for Divine Might

18 Fighter for all the damage.


I forgot to add:

Take all the SWF feats as well as Offhand Versatility. That means put absolutely NOTHING in your offhand.

Wicked Blade is nice because its Sovereign Vorpal ability synergizes with the additional vorpal range granted by PSWF.
  

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Reply #33 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 12:02pm
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Technomage wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:58am:
I forgot to add:

Take all the SWF feats as well as Offhand Versatility. That means put absolutely NOTHING in your offhand.

Wicked Blade is nice because its Sovereign Vorpal ability synergizes with the additional vorpal range granted by PSWF.


I should add that 18BRB/1FvS/1DRD (or 1FTR) SWF with Dull Dagger VKF capstone is one of the best SWF builds out there if you don't mind the whole raging gimmick.
  

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Reply #34 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 12:21pm
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I agree swf is good for what it is.  You get a lot of attack speed bonuses for that one weapon.  But i haven’t seen anyone with 1 weapon destroy me in damage.  For example, I’ll kill my end boss in WPM well before the swf char did.  By a decent margin.  But I also can’t say that it was apples to apples but rather only say that it was a veteran character with lives gear etc.

So for me it looks like it’s best pound for pound but not overall.  But  show me otherwise I guess.
  
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Reply #35 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 12:28pm
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And also, the day swf is better than 2wf, then really wtf is wrong with this game.  What would be the benefit of ever using two weapons?
  
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Reply #36 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 3:18pm
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I wish I could play my tempest right now, but the cucks and nutless wannabes at SSG couldn’t release an update without game crippling bugs even if their meaningless lives were on the line.

Honestly, I’d wager a shit ton of money that a game studio made up entirely of people with Down syndrome - and I mean in EVERY position from the CEO on down - would do an exponentially better job than what those half-assed dullards at Sucky Shitty Games have ever done.
  
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Reply #37 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 5:37pm
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No but really, does swf do more dps than twf??  I don’t see it. Granted I have done zero testing, and just observing LF groups I’m in.

I mean with the bigger doublestrike combined damage hits, I do get more kills with the changes it seems as a side note.

Are there any new feats/ED’s/enhancements that are newly must haves with the changes that am missing?  It would be nice to get more doublestrike from things that have no relationship to twf like thf does with perfect 2 weapon fighting..  not that I need 100% doublestrike passively as almost any battle will have talents pushing it over that every time. 

I’m looking around but haven’t found any secret wording or changes to things not mentioned in the update yet..
  
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Reply #38 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:32pm
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 11:51am:
SWF >>>>>>> TWF.

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in Fury or LD?
  
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Reply #39 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:34pm
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Mattyo wrote on Apr 24th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
No but really, does swf do more dps than twf??  I don’t see it. Granted I have done zero testing, and just observing LF groups I’m in.



We've done a bunch of testing and it hasn't shown SWF to be better. 

I do concede that doesn't me SWF is inferior, it means none of the SWF toons we tested beat the TWF we tested.
  
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Reply #40 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 10:03pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
We've done a bunch of testing and it hasn't shown SWF to be better. 

I do concede that doesn't me SWF is inferior, it means none of the SWF toons we tested beat the TWF we tested.


How's TWF comparing to THF now?
  

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Reply #41 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 10:19pm
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Thf is meta, twf is not.
  
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Reply #42 - Apr 25th, 2021 at 11:26pm
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Smrti wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 10:03pm:
How's TWF comparing to THF now?


THFing in FoTW is king.
  
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Reply #43 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 1:04am
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 11:26pm:
THFing in FoTW is king.


It feels like it for sure. Been slowly collecting all those good 1 handers I missed out on during my hiatus just in case TWF comes back lmao
  

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Reply #44 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:11am
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:32pm:
in Fury or LD?


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Reply #45 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:16am
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 8:34pm:
We've done a bunch of testing and it hasn't shown SWF to be better. 

I do concede that doesn't me SWF is inferior, it means none of the SWF toons we tested beat the TWF we tested.


unless you were comparing it to 14pal/5tempest/1fvs twf razorclaw shifter, which I highly fucking doubt (due to the cost), none of your other twf shit builds could even compare to the 18/1/1 aasimar barb with dull dagger.

Don't even get me started on pure tempest.
  

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Reply #46 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:17am
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Mattyo wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 10:19pm:
Thf is meta, twf is not.


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you have no idea how to DPS.
  

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Reply #47 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:19am
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Bigjunk wrote on Apr 25th, 2021 at 11:26pm:
THFing in FoTW is king.


When mod was 3.0 and CAFs were OP with 1clr splash.
  

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Reply #48 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:48am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Apr 26th, 2021 at 9:16am:
unless you were comparing it to 14pal/5tempest/1fvs twf razorclaw shifter, which I highly fucking doubt (due to the cost), none of your other twf shit builds could even compare to the 18/1/1 aasimar barb with dull dagger.

Don't even get me started on pure tempest.


I know I don’t know everything, I’m old and mildly retarded.

I’ve never seen an 18/1/1 swf barbarian on my server, the swf builds we saw used khopesh or an axe of some kind.  These are probably inferior

You have a video or some math to show me on this?  I’m here to learn
  
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Reply #49 - Apr 26th, 2021 at 11:38am
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[quote author=674C424F504B4E250 link=1618531410/48#48 date=1619444900]I’ve never seen an 18/1/1 swf barbarian on my server, the swf builds we saw used khopesh or an axe of some kind.  These are probably inferior [/quo

Upgraded dull dagger just shits on all other one-handed weapons for SWF. VKF support is too sexy.

Just so happens that T5, C5/6 FB stuff makes it even better compared to other splits, like kensei and kotc.

I'm not a math guy, but I've played with all other splits and all the weapons (except barb) and 2.25 dmg mod + 78% boosted attack speed is ridiculous.
  

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