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Sep 17th, 2021 at 9:34am
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After an older account got banned without notice (just says wrong password everytime) how can i use the rest of my boxes without getting banned?
  
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Did you recently use the boxes?
  
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Latetotheparty wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 10:28am:
Did you recently use the boxes?


It has been almost a year since i have used the XP stones, but I have opened some for the xp pots. The stones and boxes sits on an alt account atm
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 11:17am
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Just wondering why you got banned.
I have a friend who used a lot of boxes and still good to go.
I do not want to lay out here the safe way I know how to use them.
And are you a cop LOL.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 3:27pm
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The bannings appear to be entirely random.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm
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noamineo wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 3:27pm:
The bannings appear to be entirely random.

They're definitely not random.

They're likely due to the person who was banned doing something stupid like several TRs in rapid succession.

Did you know the Devs/DMs can go into the game invisibly and observe whatever it is you're doing?

That's how the guild leader of a prominent guild on Khyber lost his main DDO account.
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
They're likely due to the person who was banned doing something stupid like several TRs in rapid succession.


I never did that.

I thought i was being careful and grabbed a level or two then did some quests to be less suspicious, then repeat - sometimes over a few days. All while anonymous.
Thats why i want to be really cautious if im gonna do it again.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 6:47pm
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Haz you people observed some security guide lines such as using a disposable toon (one created and deleted after a brief time) to take stuff out of a bank and pass it to the toon that needed said stuff just so you could delete the first toon with EXTREME PREJUDICE?

Why bother? It's not like there is a really good chance it also deletes logs of transaction. None of us has access to the source code so this is all stuff some people "data mined" so to speak.

The best time to use a duped exp stone is when the legit ones go for sale. 

Do not TR in rapid succession and try not to use crowded place when taking levels. The guy you exchanged jokes and partied with dozens of time has a +15 vorpal dagger of backstabbing for all you know and, most likely, perfect two weapon fighting so you don't even know what's coming next.

Yes, this also include your guildies.

SHUT THE FUCK UP if you have some duped stuff and act smart. Do not even say it here on the Vault.



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Reply #9 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 7:29pm
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I TR alot on purpose, my fan club reports me for farting in the wrong direction and it amuses me. Haven't been banned for exploiting since the good old jeets exploit.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 17th, 2021 at 11:54pm
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
They're definitely not random.


I mean random to the people actually exploiting.

Here's the thing - lets say I do 3 TRs in a day(realistically about the most I'm going to get through). How does SSG know I'm a dirty, filthy, stinking exploiter, and not some guy who bought 3 ottos boxes from the DDO store? They don't appear to have ANY way to tell the difference. Ergo, doing 3 TRs in a day = not an obvious sign of an exploiter.

Meanwhile I know people who were as careful as possible, only using boxes on their guild ships, never visiting the same trainer twice, and limiting their TRs to one a week(a fairly typical rate for the uber-gamers). Several of them still got banned.

So far, of the ban recipients I've spoken to so far(and I know a lot more than have been posted here publicly) I have found no clear pattern, no obvious danger zone.

The only advice I can give is don't tell anyone in-game what you are doing.
  

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Reply #11 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:38pm
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DDOGamer2 wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 9:34am:
After an older account got banned without notice (just says wrong password everytime) how can i use the rest of my boxes without getting banned?


In my experience, people who get banned don't get "wrong password" when they log on.  Are you sure you got banned?
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:40pm
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
They're definitely not random.

They're likely due to the person who was banned doing something stupid like several TRs in rapid succession.

Did you know the Devs/DMs can go into the game invisibly and observe whatever it is you're doing?

That's how the guild leader of a prominent guild on Khyber lost his main DDO account.


When I use a stone I do it where no one will see the "you leveled" effects.  And then I go places like Amrath or Eveningstar to level up.  Rarely anyone using trainers in Amrath.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 3:37pm
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
In my experience, people who get banned don't get "wrong password" when they log on.  Are you sure you got banned?

Every time i've tried to reset the password i get a confirmation but still can't log into the game
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 6:14pm
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noamineo wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 3:27pm:
The bannings appear to be entirely random.


What appears to be random is darwin's law at work in DDO.


Notanarc wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
In my experience, people who get banned don't get "wrong password" when they log on.  Are you sure you got banned?



That's the fact jack.
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Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 7:16pm
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
In my experience, people who get banned don't get "wrong password" when they log on.  Are you sure you got banned?


I guess I lost multiple dupe accounts because I randomly can't remember the passwords I wrote down then. The only explanation.
  

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Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 10:19pm
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Notanarc wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
In my experience, people who get banned don't get "wrong password" when they log on.  Are you sure you got banned?


This is what we call a "shadow ban". They dont delete the characters so they still appear in friends lists and guilds. It gives SSG some important plausible deniability "We haven't banned anyone. Please report all account problems to the customer service department."
  

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Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2021 at 11:05pm
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noamineo wrote on Sep 18th, 2021 at 10:19pm:
This is what we call a "shadow ban". They dont delete the characters so they still appear in friends lists and guilds. It gives SSG some important plausible deniability "We haven't banned anyone. Please report all account problems to the customer service department."



Citation needed.
  

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Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Reply #18 - Sep 19th, 2021 at 9:25am
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Btw they also don't have a proper message for suspensions. After logging in and trying to enter the server, it won't let you and claim the server is full.
  

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Reply #19 - Sep 19th, 2021 at 2:38pm
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I think their reset password process is just fucked is all. I had a (clean) mule account that I couldn't log into for years. Every few months or so I'd reset the password and get a success, then try and log into the game. Didn't work. Then one try, probably after around four years, it just worked.
  
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Reply #20 - Sep 19th, 2021 at 5:06pm
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kum-gulp wrote on Sep 19th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
I think their reset password process is just fucked is all. I had a (clean) mule account that I couldn't log into for years. Every few months or so I'd reset the password and get a success, then try and log into the game. Didn't work. Then one try, probably after around four years, it just worked.


Yes but I doubt several dozen people would report similar problems immediately after cheating. When you hear hoof beats, think horses.
  

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kum-gulp wrote on Sep 19th, 2021 at 2:38pm:
I think their reset password process is just fucked is all. I had a (clean) mule account that I couldn't log into for years. Every few months or so I'd reset the password and get a success, then try and log into the game. Didn't work. Then one try, probably after around four years, it just worked.


Yeah. You get banned temp or perma they always email the address you registered that account with. It's an automated process, computerized on the ban imposing end, literally part of the ban mechanic. Some people used throw away emails and never can log on to them, or the email ends up in spam/trash. Whatever the case there is always an email. There are no such things as shadow bans, it just makes some wankers feel better to think there is. End of Story.

*Citation: This was spelt out in excruciating detail to me by a DDO employee 5 or 6 years ago before they shut down phone support. I had a dozen or so accounts burned and banned in the preceding years, then finally learned some exploit hygiene and stopped getting caught and went years with no bans. Then out of the blue after a couple of years of no problems I lost access to a secondary account. At the time the term 'Shadowban' wasn't being used, the conspiracy was still around mind you but it was often called 'Ghostban' like ghostbane... yeah real fucking clever. Anyway, after trying to access it for two weeks and my other accounts being left alone I was less worried and starting to get pretty pissed. So I called up phone support, I spent two hours going through the whole farce with the guy insisting that my account was banned. He spent that much time with me because my account had not in fact been banned so he felt obliged to help a customer. He took the time to explain that there was no such thing as Ghostbans, and went on at length about the many ways that would be stupid and useless for them. Through a combination of toon names, user name, email accounts, his patient help, etc... I eventually regained access to the account.

The most useful thing I ever got on that phone is that I wasn't the first person to call him with nearly my identical problem and that they were under no illusion that I and the others like me had had other accounts banned for exploiting. To paraphrase him these many years later: If you break the TOS and get caught the employee fills out the interface form which activates the ban and automatically, notifys Customer service, the server GM snag list, puts the account on the bad actors list for that server in case it is a temp ban, and emails the account holder's listed email.

He was very aware of the concept of Ghostbans, and was pretty scornful, positing it to me that the entire idea, the conspiracy if you will, was a result of gamers love to feel persecuted or believe that the man is on their back treating them unfairly, especially exploiters to justify their exploiting.

Thus in the end I not only got the account back but also was given a fascinating... look into the process, how employees felt about exploiters day to day, and most importantly came to know how much contempt DDO has for gamers in general. 

Not that this is anyone else's business, I'm just sick of this Shadowban whining
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noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Standing Stone Games wrote on Sep 17th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
That's how the guild leader of a prominent guild on Khyber lost his main DDO account. Multiple times.

FTFY
  
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A bunch of crap no one bothered reading.


  

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