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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #25 - Dec 25th, 2021 at 4:27pm
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bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
I still need to see the quote where they said all 4 items are equally weighted.   I think they left that vague on purpose.


I'm not being vague on purpose. But sure. Since your search-fu seems to be shit, here's one of the 3 or 4 times it was mentioned:



The reason I said "go look it up for yourself" is because this little screenshot is part of the greater discussion. You can go read about it in this thread:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/513124-Spark-of-memory-drop-rate-is-la...

But the same thing was confirmed multiple times across multiple drop-rate discussion threads. That said I would say that's pretty clear-fucking-cut.


bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
I wouldn't be surprised nor would I call it malfeasance if they did this.


Malfeasance is certainly reasonable but incompetence seems more likely.

bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
So back to Jibber's,


Yes. Back to Jibbers. Jibbers is STILL not a named item and is STILL not on the 10/16/33% table we are discussing with regards to named items. But keep reading those patch notes.

For now, I'll just say it again. The two named items are:

Drowned Priests Torch
Coffin Nail

Jibbers blade does not use the 10/16/33% drop chance.

bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
I understand it is a clicky.  But I don't think anyone has ever gotten a Jibber's and one of the other named items in the same chest. 


Jibbers is so vanishingly rare that it's not hard to believe the few times its dropped that there wasn't also a named item with it. I've actually seen it drop with a named item though, so it doesn't "replace" the named item like some drop mechanics do.

bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
That still holds true for my hypothesis.


The part I don't get - you don't have to hypothesize. I explained to you exactly how it works. Its been explained several times on the motherboards. If you go ask, you'll get the same explanation I just gave you like 4 times, and if the thread stays civil and you ask on a weekday, the devs will come in and confirm it(as they have several times). I used to be part of the discussions on the motherboards about drop rates all the time, but then I realized it was like talking to a brick wall, so I hung out here instead. So different.

bob the builder wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 9:42am:
The game is not designed to be FAIR in however each person deems what FAIR is.  It is designed (or at least they are trying to) to keep people clicking things and logging in each day.

if the good items were all obtained easily, then that defeats the "skinner box" they want you to keep you in.


They achieve this through the Raid mechanics. The "best" items will always be raid gear. Now if you fucking ask me to go screen shot this I will loose my shit on you(db asking doesn't count because he's a sock and a cunt, in that order), but the devs have also stated several times that the type of play-style they want to see is "people running the highest difficulty they can". EG - it gives Steel an erection every time you hit enter on R10. That's why the 10/16/33% and evenly-weighted tables exist: so that getting regular non-raid named loot is easy enough to make higher-dif raiding possible.

What you're forgetting is that the definition of a "good" item changes from person/build to person/build. I may need a family recruit sigil for my firebrand sorc, but for your nuker sorc that's hot garbage. The game is definitely not "smart enough" to look at every build and guess what the optimal item is for it, then denny that to you - to say nothing of people farming for gear on alts. Do you believe there is some kind of complex algorithm that's capable of going "Ok, this guy has a sorc with 10 PLs but he's currently playing on a paladin. We better reduce the drop rate of sorc gear because he's obviously looking for that" ?
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #26 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 1:46pm
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I'm trying to dodge the DB <-> Noam love story but homeboy is obsessed for months now

It's everywhere

I bet you drive at least 50 years older than you are

Holy fuck move on
  
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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #27 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 2:43pm
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Linker wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 1:46pm:
I'm trying to dodge the DB <-> Noam love story but homeboy is obsessed for months now

It's everywhere

I bet you drive at least 50 years older than you are

Holy fuck move on


? I've been arguing with "bob the builder". Not really sure why though. Boardem?
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #28 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 4:01pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 25th, 2021 at 4:27pm:
db asking doesn't count because he's a sock and a cunt, in that order


Are you sure about this order?
  
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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #29 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:01pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 4:01pm:
Are you sure about this order?


I like to stand on the bridge and feed the trolls every now and again.
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #30 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:05pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:01pm:
I like to make big statements and turn out to be wrong again and again.



Hey what's the deal here Normoreo? you posting 1 last time on your way out of the Vault after losing the bet?

Or are you trying to backpedal and get out of it just like I said you would?

LMAO!
  

noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


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Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #31 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:11pm
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Dragonborn wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:05pm:


Sorry, I don't speak retard. Can you try english?
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #32 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:16pm
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Dragonborn wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:14pm:


Sorry, kid, I still don't speak retard. Maybe if you ask real nice one of the adults will translate for you?
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #33 - Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:24pm
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Dragonborn wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:22pm:


Nope, still an incomprehensible wall of solid retard. Why don't you go outside and play with the dog eggs? Maybe a grownup will be by to clean you up later.
  

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Re: More fun with item drop rates
Reply #34 - Dec 27th, 2021 at 4:00pm
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noamineo wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:11pm:
Sorry, I don't speak retard. Can you try english?


And apparently, even with three attempts you still don't know how to post images on the Vault correctly either LOL! 

But more importantly, you lost the bet kid, weren't you supposed to piss off now? or are you going to try and pretend it didn't happen or just weasel out again? LMAO!

Ah... there it is, poor little fella is going to try to save face by pretending he didin't know about the bet... LOLOLOL


My work here is done, success again.



*Nomoero's lost bet:

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1640553022
  

noamineo wrote on Dec 24th, 2021 at 12:04pm:
Sadly only scammers are "selling" boxes now. But if you do want to get scammed, I know a guy.


OSeanessy wrote on Dec 26th, 2021 at 6:03am:
Just for the record, I bought ten stones from Dragonborn a few days back. Fair and civil trade which went smoothly
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