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Thrower builds - what do I need to know?
May 5th, 2022 at 12:12am
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MY "pure" alchemist has proven to be so uninteresting that I just can't even. So going to nope out of this life and start over.

Preques: Deep gnome iconic for the race, must get an alchemist past-life. Yes, fucking obviously I know this is not the most ideal thrower build in the world. Bite me. I've never played a thrower and want to try something new.

My current idea for the level split is 6 wizard/2 artificer/12 alchemist. Is there a better /different level split I could be using?

My logic: 6 wizard gets me pretty deep into EK for spellsword imbues + some other neat tricks. 2 arti for runearm. and 12 alchemist because I need the alchi PL.

In theory it shouldn't suck.
  

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Reply #1 - May 6th, 2022 at 3:31am
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Thefuck did I just read?
Look. Obviously you pay through the nose to play. Why don't you test a build on lammania to see if it's viable ?

IMHE 3 splits can go either way. Total shit like you wouldn't believe or OK enough to solo R4/5.


Alternatively just dual box.
TR one of the barbs as a WF sorc and any time your main starts to fucking suck and die, use the WF to finish out the quest... (rest of the life)

Also it's your second post about essentially the same thing. Innit? You were told it sucked before you went for it? Am I wrong?
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Reply #2 - May 6th, 2022 at 8:19am
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Why don't you just finish the life as a pure alchemist inquisitor.

Gnome gives you + crossbow damage and intel.

Vile chemist is almost like EK.

You'll have awesome buffs, intel to damage, evasion, prr and dodge and awesome healing.

Can do the same as a thrower also, except with multiclass.

Btw, have you reached past level 6 as an alchemist?
  
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Reply #3 - May 6th, 2022 at 11:17am
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yeah, vile chemist + inquisitor + gnome is pretty awesome in heroics.  Owns a lot content with no issues whatsoever. 

Take lots of buffs - they are all self only, so no whining from other players about give me x-y-z
Some big boom spells that you can lob when the angle is bad for shooting.
Some CC for when mobs run up to you to smash your face in.
Some self heals

get all the xbow related feats, maximise, empower and that's basically you done.
  

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Reply #4 - May 6th, 2022 at 2:17pm
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I'm beginning to seriously question the reading comprehension of people on this board.

Anothersock wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 3:31am:
Also it's your second post about essentially the same thing. Innit? You were told it sucked before you went for it? Am I wrong?


Yes. You were there. You were in that thread. You saw me say "I tried a wizard 1/alchemist 19. Now that I've played it a bit I am not liking(mostly I just fucking hate nuker alchemist).

Now I'm looking for a different way to get Deep Gnome + Alchemist PL for the second round, one that's more fun.



SpaceGoat wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 8:19am:
Why don't you just finish the life as a pure alchemist inquisitor.


Because I am unwilling to spend a +1 heart for a build I intend to TR the exact instant I hit level 30. As I have stated many times, I need a level split that includes wizard but gets me the alchemist heroic PL.

SpaceGoat wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 8:19am:
Gnome gives you + crossbow damage and intel.


This might be a better plan. But again, need a split that includes wizard.


SpaceGoat wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 8:19am:
Btw, have you reached past level 6 as an alchemist?


I'm currently playing 19 alchemist/1 wizard/5 epic and it sucks balls. Its kind of like druid where there's just something about it that I don't remotely enjoy. The build might actually be just fine, all I know is I'm not having fun playing it and want out.
  

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Reply #5 - May 6th, 2022 at 4:57pm
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noamineo wrote on May 6th, 2022 at 2:17pm:
I'm beginning to seriously question the reading comprehension of people on this board.


Yes. You were there. You were in that thread. You saw me say "I tried a wizard 1/alchemist 19. Now that I've played it a bit I am not liking(mostly I just fucking hate nuker alchemist).



Now I'm looking for a different way to get Deep Gnome + Alchemist PL for the second round, one that's more fun.




Because I am unwilling to spend a +1 heart for a build I intend to TR the exact instant I hit level 30. As I have stated many times, I need a level split that includes wizard but gets me the alchemist heroic PL.


This might be a better plan. But again, need a split that includes wizard.



I'm currently playing 19 alchemist/1 wizard/5 epic and it sucks balls. Its kind of like druid where there's just something about it that I don't remotely enjoy. The build might actually be just fine, all I know is I'm not having fun playing it and want out.


For my comment pure alchemist and 19 alchemist are the same thing. It's the poison dice. I do not monitor your comments in other threads and don't keep track of this. I said pure because you said "pure"

Are you a bombardier? You should be wrecking things with spells and vials. What are you doing?
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2022 at 10:26am
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I'd go bomber. You get to play it just like a sorc except you don't skip any shrines.
  

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Reply #7 - May 7th, 2022 at 9:07pm
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From what I have seen its more about learning how to play the role than how to acrually build.
I mean, build helps. But if you expect to play as a sorc blaster, then no. Not only it won't really work, but it will also suck compared to your expectations...
  
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2022 at 12:05am
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Anothersock wrote on May 7th, 2022 at 9:07pm:
From what I have seen its more about learning how to play the role than how to acrually build.
I mean, build helps. But if you expect to play as a sorc blaster, then no. Not only it won't really work, but it will also suck compared to your expectations...


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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2022 at 2:27pm
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Anothersock wrote on May 7th, 2022 at 9:07pm:
than how to acrually build


  
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Reply #10 - May 8th, 2022 at 7:14pm
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Think what you will, but remeber that Steelstar thinks that item defense is a great addition to any class.
So obviously there's no need to know how to build a character to play the game...
I mean, if there was, then you'd think somewhat competent people wold work at *making* the game...
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Reply #11 - May 8th, 2022 at 7:51pm
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Maybe I am just tired or you are just rambling or both but I have no idea what you are talking about.
  

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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2022 at 8:45am
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Anothersock wrote on May 8th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Think what you will, but remeber that Steelstar thinks that item defense is a great addition to any class.
So obviously there's no need to know how to build a character to play the game...
I mean, if there was, then you'd think somewhat competent people wold work at *making* the game...


What are you talking about here and how does it relate to the question or the thread...
  
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Reply #13 - May 9th, 2022 at 4:30pm
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SpaceGoat wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 8:45am:
What are you talking about here and how does it relate to the question or the thread...


Seriously?
It is rare for every third post to be topical in any given vault thread.
Maybe it's back to the mobos time for you.
  
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Reply #14 - May 9th, 2022 at 4:34pm
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Shinyshoes wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 4:30pm:
Seriously?
It is rare for every third post to be topical in any given vault thread.
Maybe it's back to the mobos time for you.


Strake said that's the way to vault works. Someone makes a post about a topic, then everyone(including the OP) talks about whatever the hell they feel like.
  

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Reply #15 - May 9th, 2022 at 5:00pm
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noamineo wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 4:34pm:
Strake said that's the way to vault works. Someone makes a post about a topic, then everyone(including the OP) talks about whatever the hell they feel like.




Yup, that's why I'm here.
Although I like to remember the departed... UB, DB, Gisty...
  
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Reply #16 - May 10th, 2022 at 12:03am
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noamineo wrote on May 9th, 2022 at 4:34pm:
Strake said that's the way to vault works. Someone makes a post about a topic, then everyone(including the OP) talks about whatever the hell they feel like.


Yes, that's how some people have 7000 posts.
  
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Reply #17 - May 10th, 2022 at 2:52am
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The question is on how to build.
My response is that not even those who make the game know how to build.
How is that not on topic?

For all intensive purposes, forget about "how to build for X" and worry about "how do I play as X without costing the rest of the party 10% XP"...
  
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Reply #18 - May 10th, 2022 at 4:12am
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Anothersock wrote on May 10th, 2022 at 2:52am:
"how do I play as X without costing the rest of the party 10% XP"...


That's personal not party wide these days.  feel free to die and penalise yourself only in future.  Be happy for the other people in your party that your death-by-incompetence does not hurt them
  

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Reply #19 - May 10th, 2022 at 4:49am
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That is absolutely great to know. It means my 1st/second life sorc bot can die off as much as he needs by running after with AF...
So far I was being careful and shit. Guess next life is back to the tried and true stoneform lift Smiley
  
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