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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	FVS TR May 6^th, 2011 at 7:12am	Print Post
	This is what I was thinking of doing for my fvs tr on my sorc.� Remember, will be largely soloing or grouping with people I know that can handle themselves.� Unless I feel like letting a pug experience of the horror of me lvling a healing class.� Trust me, I get pretty pissed when my healer is outrunning barbs or monks.� Obvious exception is when a fvs turns� level 17. If you think you have some tweaks to improve it, let me know ~ couple things first: 1.� I am not grabbing quicken, I have argued this I think twice now here.� It isn't happening, get over it and move on. 2.� Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.� It comes in pots.� If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.� I can, so can you. Here we go.... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page� Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male (20 Favored Soul) Hit Points: 362 Spell Points: 1904 BAB: 15/15/20/2525 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 11 Will: 10 � �� Starting� � Feat/Enhancement Abilities� � Base Stats� � Modified Stats (36 Point)� � (Level 1)� �� (Level 20) Strength� �� 18� �� 23 Dexterity� �� 8� �� 8 Constitution� �� 19� �� 20 Intelligence� �� 10� �� 10 Wisdom� �� 6� �� 6 Charisma� �� 11� �� 13 Level 1 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Lord of Blades Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Level 2 (Favored Soul) Level 3 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 4 (Favored Soul) Level 5 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Level 6 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting Level 7 (Favored Soul) Level 8 (Favored Soul) Level 9 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting Level 10 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid Level 11 (Favored Soul) Level 12 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 13 (Favored Soul) Level 14 (Favored Soul) Level 15 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 16 (Favored Soul) Level 17 (Favored Soul) Level 18 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting Level 19 (Favored Soul) Level 20 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Adamantine Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Lord of Blades Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation Enhancement: Favored Soul Greatsword Specialization I Enhancement: Favored Soul GGreatsword Specialization II Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Enhancement: Improved Concentration II Enhancement: Improved Concentration III Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude I Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude II Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.� Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache� for the one doing the tr. So, hammer away. ....................... EDIT:� The build changed!� I went all melee.� First thing that hits me is the healing power, nowhere close to what my radiant servant can do.� Once again, I am posting this cuz I want the faster run to lvl 20, sit there for a couple weeks, then tr again.� FVS are not my things.� A couple other changes, I did all the enhancements at the end so stainer can see em all, and I am open for discussion on spells and feats.� Except the aforementioned, obv.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #1 - May 6^th, 2011 at 9:37am	Print Post
	I have a human FvS at lvl 14 that is a evoker build and a WF FvS TR1 at lvl 19. Both can heal anything, but I would have to say the WF is better at soloing. That may be because I am not a great player though. Are you thinking about the PRE? I have that on both my FvS and it seems to work well. Is that how you are taking your enhancements, or do you adjust it as you are leveling? I like the wand and scroll mastery at lower levels if I can fit it in. I have said many times that I am not a good character builder, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: FVS TR Reply #2 - May 6^th, 2011 at 9:57am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 7:12am: This is what I was thinking of doing for my fvs tr on my sorc.� Remember, will be largely soloing or grouping with people I know that can handle themselves.� Unless I feel like letting a pug experience of the horror of me lvling a healing class.� Trust me, I get pretty pissed when my healer is outrunning barbs or monks.� Obvious exception is when a fvs turns� level 17. If you think you have some tweaks to improve it, let me know ~ couple things first: 1.� I am not grabbing quicken, I have argued this I think twice now here.� It isn't happening, get over it and move on. 2.� Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.� It comes in pots.� If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.� I can, so can you. Here we go.... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hit Points: 302 Spell Points: 1904 BAB: 15/15/20/2525 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 11 Will: 20 � �� Starting� � Feat/Enhancement Abilities� � Base Stats� � Modified Stats (36 Point)� � (Level 1)� �� (Level 20) Strength� �� 15� �� 15 Dexterity� �� 8� �� 8 Constitution� �� 16� �� 16 Intelligence� �� 8� �� 8 Wisdom� �� 18� �� 26 Charisma� �� 10� �� 12 Level 1 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame Feat: (Human Bonus) Least Dragonmark of Passage Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Selected) Toughness Spell (1): Nightshield Spell (1): Nimbus of Light Level 2 (Favored Soul) Spell (1): Command Level 3 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Spell (1): Remove Fear Level 4 (Favored Soul) Spell (2): Resist Energy Level 5 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid Spell (2): Soundburst Level 6 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell Spell (3): Searing Light Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Improved Concentration I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 7 (Favored Soul) Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds Spell (3): Mass Aid Level 8 (Favored Soul) Spell (4): Holy Smite Level 9 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration Spell (2): Lesser Restoration Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil Spell (4): Freedom of Movement Level 10 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire Spell (5): Greater Command Level 11 (Favored Soul) Spell (3): Water Breathing Spell (5): Stalwart Pact Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds Level 12 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell Spell (6): Blade Barrier Level 13 (Favored Soul) Spell (4): Neutralize Poison Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds Spell (6): Heal� Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting I Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting II Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II Level 14 (Favored Soul) Spell (7): Destruction Level 15 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration Spell (5): Break Enchantment Spell (6): Cometfall Spell (7): Resurrection Level 16 (Favored Soul) Spell (8): Death Pact Level 17 (Favored Soul) Spell (7): Mass Protection From Elements Spell (8): Mass Death Ward Level 18 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation Spell (9): Implosion Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting III Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting III Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV Level 19 (Favored Soul) Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds Spell (9): Summon Monster IX Level 20 (Favored Soul) Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Silver Spell (9): Mass Heal Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Silver Flame Enhancement: Improved Concentration II Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.� Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache� for the one doing the tr. Also I will be doing the one with the longsword at first for a few levels then using the free feat exchange later and the extra dragonblood spell pot thingy to rework spells.� Hence the starting 15 str.� This character will probably only run a few raids inguild at cap just to see how it works, then probably tr again.� So, hammer away. If you are doing a build just to tr with do a melee wf fvs. Your tr time will be decrease by aprox 20 hours of game time.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #3 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:09am	Print Post
	stainer wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 9:37am: I have a human FvS at lvl 14 that is a evoker build and a WF FvS TR1 at lvl 19. Both can heal anything, but I would have to say the WF is better at soloing. That may be because I am not a great player though. Interesting Are you thinking about the PRE? I have that on both my FvS and it seems to work well. Yep, its in the enhancements area Is that how you are taking your enhancements, or do you adjust it as you are leveling? I like the wand and scroll mastery at lower levels if I can fit it in. Nah I was just grabbing things as I went because I hate having a giant list at level 20. I have said many times that I am not a good character builder, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #4 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:10am	Print Post
	Quote: If you are doing a build just to tr with do a melee wf fvs.� Your tr time will be decrease by aprox 20 hours of game time.� How so? Curiosity really.� FVS are not strong points.� My cleric is also not an evoker build, full radiant servant and uses mass inflict/harm/bb� for dps. Also, this means I will have to drop a feat for quicken if I go melee. As I have put in many sidenotes I do believe it is essential if you are melee clericing. Should be easy enough since I wont heighten or maximize. I also heard that you dont need the gthf if you go wf fvs lord of blades. Why is this?
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	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #5 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:16am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 10:09am: About my WF FvS. I TR'd from a Sorc without making any GS equipment, any tomes, or any planning really. Without the twink items, this was still a super easy build to level as a TR. Again, I am not a power leveler. I am so slow it would make many of you cry. I took the Greatsword enhancements, healing enhancements, PRE prereqs, WF CON and Healers Friend II. Max Str, Con rest into Cha. I have Bladesworn Transformation, but never use it, since I am not really a "tank" build. I will heal in the center of combat though. You would probably build it different, but I don't think it can be screwed up no matter what you or I do with the build. Edited: Feats I took. Empower Healing Extend Spell - for divine power/favor and recitation Toughness Maximize Spell Quicken Spell - probably could swap for something but it is nice when healing from combat Power Attack Improved Critical: Slashing
	« Last Edit: May 6^th, 2011 at 10:21am by stainer »
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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: FVS TR Reply #6 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:21am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 10:10am: How so? Curiosity really.� FVS are not strong points.� My cleric is also not an evoker build, full radiant servant and uses mass inflict/harm/bb� for dps. Also, this means I will have to drop a feat for quicken if I go melee.� As I have put in many sidenotes I do believe it is essential if you are melee clericing.� Should be easy enough since I wont heighten or maximize. I also heard that you dont need the gthf if you go wf fvs lord of blades.� Why is this? You'll never have enough mana to be able to put out the dps of a melee fvs allll the way to level 12 (Melee fvs dps is probally 2-3x as much dps / completion time when soloing) and even then your speed will not improve by more then 20% at max if you are full caster spec at level 12. In short Melee fvs 1-12 levels up about 2x as fast because of ability to complete quests and mana bar. level 12 - 20 casting fvs is only 10-20% faster. Quicken is less useful on a melee fvs than a casting fvs. I'm not going into this with you however. You don't need GTHF because of the fuck tards that think that they are putting out enough dps and doing enough healing. (You don't need it but if you don't want to be noob) The guys that give melee fvs's a bad name.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #7 - May 6^th, 2011 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Quote: You'll never have enough mana to be able to put out the dps of a melee fvs allll the way to level 12 (Melee fvs dps is probally 2-3x as much dps / completion time when soloing) and even then your speed will not improve by more then 20% at max if you are full caster spec at level 12. In short Melee fvs 1-12 levels up about 2x as fast because of ability to complete quests and mana bar.� level 12 - 20 casting fvs is only 10-20% faster. Quicken is less useful on a melee fvs than a casting fvs.� I'm not going into this with you however. You don't need GTHF because of the fuck tards that think that they are putting out enough dps and doing enough healing. (You don't need it but if you don't want to be noob)� The guys that give melee fvs's a bad name.� Yeah I wasnt to sure how the boasting for the evoker fvs was so great since the lack of aoe spells (since the only real one is bb, but what till then?). I was questioning it rather greatly. Your sentence confused me (nearing the end of work and im pretty tired). I am going to assume you said whomever told me that is a noob and dont listen to them.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #8 - May 6^th, 2011 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	I am about to start my 4th life on my FvS. She's leveled 3 times now. Twice as a melee FvS and once as an evoker/caster. The melees were much faster. I agree. Even the 36 point TR as a melee went faster than the 34 point TR as an evoker. I'm a twf 18/2 FvS/Monk build when I do melee leveling, though, so my feats look like this: Monk Toughness TWF Human: Power Attack Levels Empower Healing Maximize Extend Quicken ITWF GTWF IC: Slash I'm not sure that with the new Divine Punishment and PrE line (none of which needs DC's) that you don't have enough dps out of searing light, Holy Smite, Divine Punishment, BB, Cometfall and the archon.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #9 - May 6^th, 2011 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 10:38am: Yeah I wasnt to sure how the boasting for the evoker fvs was so great since the lack of aoe spells (since the only real one is bb, but what till then?).� I was questioning it rather greatly.� Your sentence confused me (nearing the end of work and im pretty tired).� I am going to assume you said whomever told me that is a noob and dont listen to them. You are not tired. The end of that post was confused. It looks like he started typing. Left, got drunk and came back a few hours later and tried to finish and post it real quick. Right about the time he said "I'm not going to get into it with you" it went downhill quickly.


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rev Jim American Azog Offline I GOT VEINS Posts: 3627 Location: South Alabama Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #10 - May 6^th, 2011 at 8:22pm	Print Post
	shit rolls down hill

	Quote: Rev. Jim. He is the only guy here that posts quality, you should all learn from him.
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Siver Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 241 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #11 - May 7^th, 2011 at 1:21am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 7:12am: 2.� Neutralize poison should not be on any spell list to my concern.� It comes in pots.� If someone even thinks of suggesting it, get off your ass, spend some plat, buy some pots or get an immunity item.� I can, so can you. Here we go.... Level 13 (Favored Soul) Spell (4): Neutralize Poison Err, for items I have full faith in what I have, which is everything except the torc.� Literally, all 5 bank slots full and a few inv bags when I empty out the tr cache� for the one doing the tr. Also I will be doing the one with the longsword at first for a few levels then using the free feat exchange later and the extra dragonblood spell pot thingy to rework spells.� Hence the starting 15 str.� This character will probably only run a few raids inguild at cap just to see how it works, then probably tr again.� So, hammer away. Well, I think I see one problem with the build. Not sure what it is, though. Maybe if I look carefully, I'll figure it out. Divine Power might be worth holding instead, just in case you want to hop into the fray sometime. Of course, if you are just wanting to be cheap and save the platinum or two on potions, that's fine as well. If you have a Conc Opp, then the melee idea might hold some more merit, even without a torc.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #12 - May 7^th, 2011 at 5:23am	Print Post
	Siver wrote on May 7^th, 2011 at 1:21am: Well, I think I see one problem with the build. Not sure what it is, though. Maybe if I look carefully, I'll figure it out. Divine Power might be worth holding instead, just in case you want to hop into the fray sometime. Of course, if you are just wanting to be cheap and save the platinum or two on potions, that's fine as well. If you have a Conc Opp, then the melee idea might hold some more merit, even without a torc. Holy crap, cant believe I did that.� I even looked around the spell list and couldnt see anything I would take up or down from it via at least 3 spells.� I must of been really out of it.� Hmm, maybe my subconscious doesn't agree with me.� Yeah, I have 2 weapons, and 5 equippable conc opps.� Back when they all worked like a charm and there was nothing better to wear� Changed my build to melee. Woot, my SoS is gonna rock some socks for fun. Anyways, check it out, tear it apart.
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	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Blank_Zero Ex Member	Re: FVS TR Reply #13 - May 8^th, 2011 at 8:49am	Print Post
	rev Jim wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 8:22pm: shit rolls down hill NEEDS MOAR QUICKEN


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #14 - May 8^th, 2011 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	If you get a crit on a healing spell, that's certainly nice, but you're going to need to cast your Cures and Heals as if they weren't going to crit because people will die if you're counting on the crit and it doesn't happen. I took Prayer of Life I and Prayer of Incredible Life I on my FvS just because they were so cheap and an occasional crit is nice, but I didn't spend any more than that because even when both of those lines are maxed out, you can't count on them. I absolutely think that Favored Soul Life Magic I/II/III/IV is a must-have and I think that Wand and Scroll Mastery I/II/III are an outstanding value (and IV is worth taking if you can squeeze in the 4 AP). Empower Healing, Favored Soul Life Magic IV and Greater Potency VII with the Superior Ardor VIII clickies from Amrath have been more than enough to take care of all my healing needs. I move constantly in combat, so I didn't bother to take the THF chain. If you stand still frequently, then those feats obviously going to be better for you than they are for me.

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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #15 - May 9^th, 2011 at 12:51am	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on May 8^th, 2011 at 1:07pm: If you get a crit on a healing spell, that's certainly nice, but you're going to need to cast your Cures and Heals as if they weren't going to crit because people will die if you're counting on the crit and it doesn't happen. I took Prayer of Life I and Prayer of Incredible Life I on my FvS just because they were so cheap and an occasional crit is nice, but I didn't spend any more than that because even when both of those lines are maxed out, you can't count on them. I absolutely think that Favored Soul Life Magic I/II/III/IV is a must-have and I think that Wand and Scroll Mastery I/II/III are an outstanding value (and IV is worth taking if you can squeeze in the 4 AP). Empower Healing, Favored Soul Life Magic IV and Greater Potency VII with the Superior Ardor VIII clickies from Amrath have been more than enough to take care of all my healing needs.� I move constantly in combat, so I didn't bother to take the THF chain.� If you stand still frequently, then those feats obviously going to be better for you than they are for me. Yeah I move around a lot on my guy as well- he isn't a tank so it isnt like I am going to standing there trying to get aggro of anything. Didn't really occur to me though till you said it. That should free up 6 ap and 3 feats. Empower healing as one - not sure for the other 2.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: FVS TR Reply #16 - May 9^th, 2011 at 8:16am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on May 9^th, 2011 at 12:51am: Yeah I move around a lot on my guy as well- he isn't a tank so it isnt like I am going to standing there trying to get aggro of anything. Didn't really occur to me though till you said it.� That should free up 6 ap and 3 feats.� Empower healing as one - not sure for the other 2. I also took Maximise for Blade Barrier and some bullshit feat that starts with a Q. Can't remember exactly what it was. The Maximise really is only for Blade Barrier, but it has actually worked out really well for me because it makes a lot of quests like Sins of Attrition faster and more entertaining. My spell DC's really do suck ass, but the only downside to Maximise has occasionally not remembering to turn it off if I'm going to heal a raid. And I don't have Quicken on most of the time, but it does get turned on when I'm going to raid heal because I'm not good enough at anticipating damage before it happens to be able to depend on Mass Heal without it. I'm certainly not telling you to take the feat, just mentioning what I ended up doing with it. Mass Heal and Blade Barrier were the two reasons for me to take the spell before U9. Now there is only Mass Heal.

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	Halfmaniac wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: I'm pretty sure it is safe to say that KNN has brought a BUNCH of stupid from users on this forum out in the open Halfmaniac wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Some of you got baited real bad in an attempt to troll him back.
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