Rumored healer might be a halfling fvs with monk spalsh

Ok Quick thoughts

Starting scores
STR: 12
DEX: 8 (may godh have a spaz fit)
CON: 16
INT: 14 (you said you like skill points)
WIS: 8
CHA: 18

All level ups to CHA

Skills : max UMD and Concentration (might forgo quicken), Spot for seeing hidden baddies, balance and jump.

Enhancements: Human Versatility to help UMD, Savant line, Toughness, Energy of dragonblood, Fill rest for flavor.

What I've seen on Savant Lines: Good = Air/Cold  Meh = Acid/Fire

Feats: Empower/Toughness/Maximize/Heighten are musts, Extend/Quicken/SF UMD/Spell Pen/Greater Spell Pen all can help in some way. Extend was nerfed a little, I still like my long displace and haste. Enlarge is now about useless.

Knowing your healer I highly recommend HIGH UMD!

If this character is to be a race to 20, I would suggest the following:

Race:WF

Maximize, Empower, Spell Focus (I forgot you will need a focus eventually) as your 1st 3 feats - as soon as you get your SLA at 6 it turns you into a death machine

Go fire savant until you start running Vale quests, with acid as your secondary.  At that point change to lightning or ice, whichever tickles your fancy more.  Ice gets better single-target damage, lightning gets better AOE.  (Although between Otilukes Sphere and Cone of Cold I never am found wanting for AOE on ice personally).

You will clean up any and all quests especially if you have damage-boosting clickies.  I don't suggest ice for low levels because skellies suck when you are ice-specced.

My suggested feat order:

1)maximize
3)empower
6)Spell Focus (Evo or Conj - I prefer Conj for web and Niac)
9)heighten
12)quicken (this is when you get Reconstruct, what awesome timing!)
15)toughness
18)Your choice - spell pen or spell focus

Inkblack wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2011 at 3:42pm:


You were warned, MAX UMD for self healing.

I will not be blamed when you flame-out.

This party is going to be a nightmare!

Hmm, I'll play with the numbers a bit and see how it comes out.  I'm still in CC mode aren't I -- DC is everything.

WF True Neutral

for a 36 build...

STR - 14
DEX - 8
CON - 18
INT - 12
WIS - 8
CHR - 16

Skill points in Concentration, Balance, and UMD

FEATS!!!

1 - Toughness
3 - Maximize
6 - SF Evocation
9 - Empower
12 - Heighten
15 - Quicken
18 - (pick something)

and as said before: fire savant til vale, then air or water

don't worry about doing any melee, or about cc...just nuke and kill.

Calvet wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2011 at 6:55pm:

If you have it, it's an awesome choice for that last feat.  You can also play with feat order if you want.

Bel, I just mailed it to myself, then downloaded it from webmail.  My productivity took a dip today.

Ink

Here is a first pass in more detail.  I really don't know much about spell choice.  I'm afraid I've got a lot of nuking spells in there that I won't use since others that are more effective will be off cooldown.  Maybe I should swap in some utility spells?  Like Knock?

Any suggestions are welcome, as always.

Ink

PS - Why does the last level of a double TR have to be so miserable?  500k to go, arrgghh!!

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Sorcerer)
Hit Points: 417 = 262 planner + 45 GS + 30 GFL + 60 Con Item + 20 minos
Spell Points: 2003 planner + items

Fortitude: 17 = 12 + 5 resist
Reflex: 10 = 5 + 5 resist
Will: 24 = 19 + 5 resist
            
Abilities
S - 12         
D - 8 
C - 26 = 18 + 2 tome + 6 item
I - 14 + 2 tome
W - 6         
Ch - 34 = 16 base + 2 tome + 5 level + 9 item + 2 enhance

Skills:
Concentration
Diplomacy
Jump
UMD
Tumble (after tome at 7)

Feats:
Past Lives: Fighter, Paladin, Rogue, Wizard
1 - Toughness
3 - Maximize
6 - Extend Spell
9 - Past Life: Arcane Initiate
12 - Spell Focus: Evocation
15 - Empower Spell
18 - Force of Personality

Spells:
Level 1: Niac's Cold Ray, Repair Light Damage, Nightshield, Jump
Level 2: Electric Loop, Blur, Resist Energy, Snowball Swarm
Level 3: Frost Lance, Haste, Rage, Lightning Bolt
Level 4: Ice Storm, Stoneskin, Repair Critical, Dimension Door
Level 5: Niac's Biting Cold, Eladar's Electric Surge, Cone of Cold, Break Enchantment
Level 6: Reconstruct, Otiluke's Freezing Sphere, Disintegrate
Level 7: Finger of Death, Symbol of Stunning, Greater Teleport
Level 8: Polar Ray, Otto's Irresistable Dance, Horrid Wilting
Level 9: Wail of the Banshee, Energy Drain, Mass Hold Monster

Enhancements:
Sorcerer Bloodline of Power
Sorcerer Improved Empowering II
Sorcerer Improved Maximizing I
Racial Toughness II
Sorcerer Water Savant III
Glacial Spellcasting VI
Charged Spellcasting VI
Deadly Ice VI
Deadly Shocks VI
Frost Manipulation VII
Storm Manipulation VII
Repair Manipulation III
Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II
Sorcerer Charisma II
Warforged Constitution II
Warforged Healer's Friend I
Warforged Inscribed Armor I

Well, my first Sorc is a TR'd Halfling FvS.

I went with a WF Sorc and Fire savant with some lightning/force.

So far, it's just too easy, but the Burning Hand's SLA is useless when you have 6sp Scorch, and a 15sp Fireball clears a room or at most 2 fireballs and a scorch.

I took maximize early tihnking I would need it (like when I leveled my Wizard) but the cheap spells combined with the Sorc cooldown is insane so far.

Nuking is fun, but you still need DC's so they don't save too often. The speed at which you can nuke makes it more efficient than insta kills at this level anyway.

I took PK when I hit 9, but I will swap it out as nuking is just so much faster/easier.

Just watch the traps with a dumped dex on elite (same here).

I can't wait to hit Desert then GH, it's a lot of fun.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

After much internal struggle, I'll let extend spell go.  It kills me, it really does.  Having a wizard in our semi-static group will help with that anyway.

The spell suggestions look good too.

I plan on TR'ing the weekend after next, but I think Flint and Havakare are going to explode if I don't hurry up.  So it might be sooner.  Three of the five of us are capped, one has 40k to go, and I'm DFL at 114k to go.  Cue the slow clap...

So what GS weapon would you pick for a Sorc and what would you put on it?

Nothingtoseehere wrote on Aug 17^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:



I like an Con Op +45 HP and any single shard SP (Triple Positive w/ Charisma skills) with a good clickie both in goggles .  Buff with the SP goggles switch to the Con Op's and go.   

The only weapons I would be interested in would be Cold Absorption for ToD or Fire Absorption.