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Ok. I don't understand
Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:01am
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Look like they are going to let us keep tomes on TR. That doesn't seem right to me.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4071485&postcount=452
  

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Reply #3 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:08am
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Sweet.  Raid loot tomes (at least) should not disappear on TR.
  
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TR is TR. You die. You are a whole new character. Most times a new race and class. It doesn't make sense that you would keep a magical enhancement from reading a tome across a TR.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:10am
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Magic.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:12am
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stainer wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:01am:
Look like they are going to let us keep tomes on TR. That doesn't seem right to me.

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4071485&postcount=452


I used to be against this but given the rarity of +3/4 tomes I have swapped my view.  I like TR'ing and the way they keep nerfing/changing things I'm always hesitant to eat a +3 or 4 tome.  You keep all your other raid loot keeping tomes would actually allow you to use them and enjoy the benefits more than you do now.
  

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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #7 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:12am
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stainer wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:09am:
TR is TR. You die. You are a whole new character. Most times a new race and class. It doesn't make sense that you would keep a magical enhancement from reading a tome across a TR.


The book doesn't disappear and you can read it again.
  

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Calvet wrote on Oct 20th, 2011 at 12:18pm:
I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Reply #8 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:14am
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lots of bitching about this one. its been going on for ages, and apparently the mods finally broke down.
  

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Reply #9 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:16am
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Ok. I guess I get those arguments. I can't wait to see it implemented. The first three months it is active we probably won't be able to eat any other tomes because of some glitch. Monk handwraps will only work if you have eaten a tome and eating a charisma tome will reset all your raid completions to 0.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:17am
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stainer wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:09am:
TR is TR. You die. You are a whole new character. Most times a new race and class. It doesn't make sense that you would keep a magical enhancement from reading a tome across a TR.


Sure it does.  It's magic.  The new character obviously has a magical connection to the old one already.  Making that connection a little different is no big deal.  Your complaint is a lore one, and all lore is mutable.  And in fact, the 3.5 Reincarnation spell does preserve tome bonuses.

But in terms of game mechanics, it makes for a better game, in my opinion.  Destroying hard-won gear is simply not fun.  The Devs learned that lesson a long time ago; that's why they removed permanent damage from bound gear.  With this change, people will be more free to play the game as they want to, without fear of losing their stuff.  Get a tome?  Go ahead and actually use the dang thing.  You've earned it.  Decide you feel like TRing?  Go ahead.  You're not going to lose your stuff.

I don't see what benefit losing tomes on TR gives to the game.
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:18am
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OK OK. I get it.
  

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stainer wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:09am:
TR is TR. You die. You are a whole new character. Most times a new race and class. It doesn't make sense that you would keep a magical enhancement from reading a tome across a TR.


It doesn't make any sense to me that we get to keep our BtC gear either, but we're allowed to do that too.
  

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Reply #13 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:45am
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Also, I'm expecting that we'll have to pay TP in order to keep tomes on TR.
  

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popejubal wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:44am:
It doesn't make any sense to me that we get to keep our BtC gear either, but we're allowed to do that too.


Not to prolong this, but I could at least see gear (even BtC gear) as an inheritance.
  

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Reply #15 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:49am
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Now that you don't eat the book like a fucking window licker, it's possible that the tome is inherited like all other items.
  
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Now that you don't eat the book like a fucking window licker, it's possible that the tome is inherited like all other items.


I saved my +4 STR tome for after I TR'd. Jaxx gave it to me because I helped him get renown for the guild.
  

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stainer wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 11:51am:
I saved my +4 STR tome for after I TR'd. Jaxx gave it to me because I helped him get renown for the guild.

I lol'd.
  
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I've always thought that the best compromise is to not destroy +3/+4 tomes after reading.  That way you still have to read them, still have to worry about +1 or +2 tomes at earlier levels in a TR, have to make space for them in your character bank, etc.  I think the little bits of pain in the ass with such a plan are worth it.
  

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Reply #20 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 12:16pm
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You know what you can eat?
  

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I just got that impression after you spent 13 pages calling out eladiun for being an interwebs bully when anyone who's been posting on here already knew that.  I mean, he's proud of it and hardly tries to hide that at all.


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Eladiun wrote on Sep 15th, 2011 at 12:16pm:
You know what you can eat?

HA!  That was a good one, weinerman!  Grin
  
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Reply #23 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 12:25pm
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I prefer to lose +1 & +2 but to keep +3

OR just keep +4/+5 (if/when they come out lol)


keeping the basic tomes seem kinda ... lame i suppose..

I won't complain too much but well w/e it could've been worse

Actually, I like this idea the best:

Characters who were a Completionist in their previous life retain previously eaten tomes.
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Reply #24 - Sep 15th, 2011 at 12:38pm
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the thing about this though, it actually will BENEFIT the game.  There are enough old people here to remember when you could roll on a +3 tome in Reaver because the peeps in there already had that +3 Int tome on this build and didn't need it....  When TR came, I have personally seen fewer people offer up tomes (though I am still usually a use it now or pass it guy) because they want to save it for a TR. 

This will mean that Tomes get less usefull for the hardcore crowd so more tomes for the newbs which hopefull can help them compensate for the 28pt dual scimitar ranger drow build that worked great in PnP!
  

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