I just TR'd my pally, Gawnaderp, last night into a WF FvS.  What is the best way to go on the FvS PrEs?  I've looked at sirgog's Soul Survivor build, but it looks it was upgraded for gear and not since PrE's came out.  I've never played a Favored Soul before and so I'm totally unfamiliar with what they do.  Any help would be much appreciated!

Eladiun wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 12:54pm:


He dies alot.

Jaxx wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:


Well yes. That is what I am good at.

Eladiun wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 1:52pm:


Def a weak BP fastball that one was!

Max WIS, Enough CHA to cast, then rest CON.... oh, you wanted to make the OTHER kind of FvS?

stainer wrote on Sep 16^th, 2011 at 3:32pm:

I didn't read the Stainer manual prior to use, so I didn't know all your capabilities.

oh yeah on second thought second tier blows fucking nuts for a melee soul, go with first tier it's the bees knees for a melee soul with the new bosses.

Arkat wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 5:38pm:


And then what happens when you're in a quest with disjunction? That's not very smart. Minimum of 12 investment in charisma imo.

A smart stat distribution in my opinion would be something like

18
8
16
12
6
12

if you're a 32 point build or

18
8
17
12
6
12

if you're a 34 point build like I suspect she is. This way you if you pick up epic envenomed cloak it puts you at an even number. Also the small investment in charisma is nice because you can get a slight higher UMD and teleport and random UMD-y shit, and this is with only a 20 hp investment. You won't notice the hit on your HP at all, in my opinion. I NEVER die when I play my warforged favored soul, and I never miss the 20 hp I sacrificed for it either.

Soul wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

There's what, maybe ONE quest where you can get disjuncted? 

Arkat wrote on Sep 17^th, 2011 at 11:35pm:


So? I use to run epic dq1 once a day, and I'm so fucking glad I never got disjuncted and couldn't cast anything. You never know what sort of content you're gonna be running so you should be prepared. You also don't know what sort content is going to be released. And I'm pretty sure getting disjuncted in abbot sucks balls as well. I just don't see how 40hp is worth more than the boost to intimidate, umd, and preventing disjunction.

Soul wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 12:12am:


Every time I solo. 

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I do think that having a high DC would be nice.  I'd prefer to have a high DC.  But a high DC just ain't gonna happen on a first life on a FvS.  I can invest heavily in DC and still only come away with "not horrible" as the best DC that I can achieve.

I do agree that the second tier of the PrE is a heavy investment for a fairly modest return, but I do think it's worth taking for at least a while because it's a neat toy.  Honestly, I like the flashlight power of my laser fairy even more than I like the small boost in DPS.  I have trouble seeing the floor on the way to VoD and in other similar places, so I'm a big fan.

I'll drop the second tier of the PrE at some point, but it's actually very handy to me currently because I happen to run a lot of quests where that is useful recently.  I don't think it's worth taking long term, though.  Mostly, I just wanted to point out that absolutely horrible DC isn't significantly worse than DCs between "pretty bad" and "mediocre" - and even with really good gear, your DCs are still going to be between "pretty bad" and "mediocre" for a most (if not all) of the time you spend on your first life.

I was impressed with the DC that Epoch was able to produce on his "end build" FvS, but that required a bunch of past lives that each contributed to DC.

If this character isn't going to be your primary character that you're going to invest an extraordinary amount of time into, then dumping Wisdom makes a lot of sense to me.  I would certainly do it for a first life.  It was in a strange place, so I can't find it to link right now, but I don't see any way to get a reasonable DC on a first life at least.  I enjoy my FvS enough that I might eventually go for Epoch's build, but that would mean not having a FvS for several lives and I'm not sure that I want to not have a healer available to swap to if a group needs one.

Couldn't u just carry charisma pots in case u got disjuncted? Or does that not work? Sure I read somewhere someone suggested it in the lord of blades build

Chris79 wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 1:34am:

It'll work.