Soul wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 12:24pm:


Fire Shield scrolls alone are worth the points I spent on Cha/UMD.  I'm a fan.

My version:  http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=323358

Good post that went over spell selection:  http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3544161


Crazily enough I agree with Soul on his layout.

I've also gone back and forth on the 2nd tier of AoV and think that it is probably not worth the cost, especially for this style of build.  Tier 1 is really decent for solo and really good for group play though and doesn't cost much.

Tanking comes WAY later and is pretty situational, there is almost always someone more qualified for the job. 

Building to be sturdy enough to stand that level of punishment is good though.  Being able to stand next to velah/bloodplate/trash/whatever helps a lot for spell point regen, really important now that bosses have more HP.

Soul wrote on Sep 20^th, 2011 at 1:46pm:


Sneak attack, don't have epic claw yet.

Also has a yellow slot for GFL when needing the DOD.


I also differ from 99% of the population with my GS layout, but it works better for me than the traditional HP goggles and SP swap boots.

Epoch wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 5:36am:


Can you suggest a first life build that would have an Implosion that doesn't suck?

Munkenmo wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 10:01pm:


this made me laugh. idk why

popejubal wrote on Sep 21^st, 2011 at 4:23pm:


Yes.

Human 20 fvs

18 start
03 enhancements
09 6/1/2 wis items
03/2 depending on unbound sitting tomes
05 lvl

38 wisdom

Spell focus evo
greater focus evo
spell pen
greater spell pen.
item giving +2 evocation (pretty easy to get)

Then you just farm favor yugo pots and what not.


Implosion wont suck (prolly not epic raid standards), can't say for the rest of the build.

AHA!

I gotta agree with those that say don't dump charisma.  If you want to max str and con and be a DPS master there are classes for that.  Your melee FvS is going to do solid DPS with a 16 Strength and have solid HP with a 18 base con.  That extra +1 to hit and damage is not going to be the deal breaker.  You don't need dex and you don't need wis and a minimal investment in Int will get you the skill points you need, so with a WF you can spend 10 on str, 10 on con, 2 on Int, and 10 charisma and be just fine.

WF FvS that try to max their dps all to hell and completely ignore the fact that they are also a divine casting class are dumbasses.  Try to balance it out a bit people.  It's not that fucking hard.

Arkat wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:43pm:

I think my opinion is born of player choices during gameplay than during character creation.  A lack of consideration of anything other than STR and CON at creation does not necessarily mean that the player will be a non-healing tard in raids and epic.  I still like to judge each individual player on their merits and let them earn their own reputation, for better or worse.  However, just as when I see a drow ranger named xxxdrizztxxx, my initial expectations are becoming lower and lower for WF FvS. 

I am not trying to invalidate the build concept or try to say it can't be done well by knowledgable, skilled players.  I'm just saying that many players see the build on the forums and implement it incorrectly.  Leaving a bad impression on everyone that has the misfortune to group with those WF FvS that refuse to heal or do so without any competence.

My WF FVS is my "it's been a long, hard day at work and I can't be arsed to twitch" char

To answer someone's question, yes, Gawnaderp is a 34 point build (Past Life: Paladin).  I went with Sirgog's starting stats, max Str, didn't dump Cha, and still have an 18 starting Con.  She just hit level 4 today when I was playing on my laptop at lunchtime and I'm really digging her so far!

Thanks for all the tips guys, I really appreciate it!  I think I'm gonna try out the PrE and then switch out if I hate it.

JC wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:


Quote:

COINCIDENCE?!

possibly

JC wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 11:55pm:

Her heart has been melted by the power of friendship!