I think I prefer you over Epitaph.

Mts wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:17pm:


I enjoy running with ER.  I tend to run with ER guys more when I am on during the daytime US Eastern than at night.  Not sure if that is your primary guild time or just when you have more pug spots open/do more pugging.  Was just in a Buki eVon6 today.  Smooth as pie.  Been in several of Pyce's runs too.  I've never had an issue with attitudes or performance or anything.  I heard about the past, but to me it's just that: the past. 

I'm sure everyone gets bent occasionally when things go poorly, but not seen any ER guys behave any better or worse than any other guild tags.  Fact is, I think you are more likely to get an obnoxious attitude and blame laying from the players in non-elite guilds.  Knights of Kern, Elite Empire and the like.

I've never had an issue with any of the ER people myself.

Mts wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:17pm:



Since it's you who is asking Mt I will give an honest and open answer.

I still treat ER with a bit of caution and expect to get nothing much but a completion when I run with you guys. It tends to be quiet, I'm guessing because you guys talk in vent/TS. It's quite serious and I play very carefully. I don't believe this has changed.

Having been sent particularly nasty tells by Buki I tend to avoid him. On his recent TR though I ran with him a couple of times. I was disappointed by the way he treated some pugs - not very classy. But as you say, it's ER, I made my excuses and went and did something else. I've been snapped at by Pyce and other members - but hey as you say it's ER and you kind of expect that.

I like you and Viz (didn't for a while but I got to know him) and Sweez and I have fun and will join your groups if I see you there in the lfm or otherwise. I have more fun running with my own guild and channel though as it seems less serious, more silly jokes and stuffing around while we still get stuff done. I feel more free to play with a carefree agressive style running with my guild or channel with more lattitude to make mistakes as I'm still learning stuff than I would in an ER run where I tend to be much more careful and wallflowerish trying not to attract negative remarks, but that's just me being a bit sensitive I guess. There are days I don't feel strong enough to handle ER and will just avoid their raids/quests and will be a tad freaked out if I find myself suddenly in a party with an ER member.

Kinder, gentler? Maybe. Still assholes? Well Buki certainly still qualifies.

Edit: I forget that Kokasia is in your guild. They're such a sweetie they seem totally out of place

And I admire Stainer for just saying it how he sees it. I should be more like that.

Mts wrote on Oct 31^st, 2011 at 9:17pm:


For the most part, I enjoy running with you guys. You are in my top 5 players to run with, and others like Viz, Sowen, and Nubb are fun people to be around.

Having said that, I do think there are a few mediocre players in ER that have quite an attitude, and it's an attitude that largely stems from your guild tag. Most of ER is good, no doubt about it, but there are a few players I can think of who are all gear and no skill (which is mostly fine when you are DPS) and only blame others when they fail (which can be aggravating).

ER is still on my auto-accept list (even Buki), and although I may not like everyone in your guild, I don't think it's possible to like every person in most guilds

I will say that ER snagged a lot of Ransack's talent, and I enjoy running immensely with my ex-guildies.

Love running with you, Buki, Pyce, Smitherz (when he was in still), etc. I wish I could remember everyone's name actually. It's been a good while since I've played along with you guys.

I miss running TRs with Buki and Trols, or fucking up a raid just to hear Buki have a conniption fit and seizure. Maybe when I come back in a while, I'll look you all up or something.

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lol Yea, I love to irritate buki too. I used to do it to Boldrin all the time as well - it would drive him up a wall.

If I wind up in a group with someone from Revenants or Pilchards I expect them to be good, and tend to listen up if they have something to say. If there's someone from OMGBIZZY there, I expect it will be entertaining, as well as usually pretty good. 

I can't recall anyone from ER ever speaking to me.

And I've had a couple experiences in raids where someone from ER refused to co-operate. I haven't been on an ER raid or played with ER players much (Shrouds mostly, and occasionally Titan). But my perception is that ER players require handling as "difficult customers". Which is usually not what I'm looking for.

My take on ER has been to both extremes.  While being newer on Khyber I've never got to meet the older version of ER so I can't comment on any changes I have seen, but more of what my current opinion is.  I know who most of the ER members are.  Not all, but most and those I do know, I know in a more of an acquaintance sort of way.  So with that said most of my views are from the first few interactions I have had with ER.

There are a few members of ER that I genuinely enjoy being around, but for the most part I tend to avoid ER runs If I can.  I had pretty high expectations from this guild as it was one of the few I was told to look for when I moved to Khyber and I felt let down with the first few impressions I saw.  It wasn't ever the skill of the players I had any issues with, but all about the attitude and talking down towards everyone else.  I've also had really great experiences with some members of ER, but so few and far apart they are ripples on the surface of my views changing.

I wouldn't ever auto decline any of them in my runs, but for the most part, I just keep my distance and do my own thing.  From a perception though, you guys/gals are good players, but sometimes with poor attitudes.  I'm only one opinion though, and its more then possible I have just had some rare occurrences of bad ER memories, but it is also very well known that ER has a reputation for sometimes being big assholes and blaming others for their own mistakes. 

A wise man once told me: "Talk all the shit you want, be as big of an asshole as you want, but you better damn well be able to back up what you say, because the day you can no longer do this, you have problems".

I think there are some current ER members bordering this.

Anyways, like I said, there are members of ER that I very much enjoy being around, and yes MT your one of them, but there are also players I avoid being around if I can.  Basically I just think ER has/had some bad apples that should have fallen out of the tree a few mods ago (From a spectators side).  All in all though, if the guild is operating smoothly and everyone gets along great and the chemistry works, it really shouldn't matter what anyone else thinks.  It's a game after all and nobody ever said you had to make anyone happy

Chris79 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 1:28am:


I said usually pretty good.

Don't make me go find a pretty pony picture.

Chris79 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 1:28am:


Good is a relative term that can mean a great many different things.  Now shut the hell up and get back to sucking or I will let grandpa Stainer "motorboat" your 5x5 again!

JakLee wrote on Nov 1^st, 2011 at 1:50am:


Oh God, I had a Shroud with Madbrenda once. What a fucking train wreck.