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Reply #50 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:27pm
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Grace wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:19pm:
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You are a fucking tool.

Also, 350hp on a 3x TR rogue isn't anywhere near "good enough." For fuck's sake. It's not even good enough on a capped first life rogue.

Oh wow, I somehow totally missed that particular paragraph of stupid bullshit.  Tongue 

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Reply #51 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:29pm
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Oakianus wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:09pm:
It's always neat to find out who the pathetic people on the server are.  Thanks for having a little coming out party, Ruinfun. 

How fast do you think I can get him to squelch me?
  
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Reply #52 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:30pm
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Probably pretty fast since you tend to scream and overreact. You know, like women do.
  

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Reply #53 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:31pm
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How fast do you think I can get him to squelch me?

With all of your 'mouth spam?'  I give it five minutes, tops.  Tongue
  

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Reply #54 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:33pm
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There are so many wemmins posting in this thread, why don't I have a sammich yet?
  

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Reply #55 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:36pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:33pm:
There are so many wemmins posting in this thread, why don't I have a sammich yet?

Someone's gonna get Kistilan'd!
  
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Reply #56 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:37pm
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From the thread . . .  http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4154177&postcount=61

My gear provides:

+2 str madstone
6 ogre power stregnth
+2 competence to hit
+2/2 fabricators set
+4 str +5% doublestrike fabricators proc
1 damage boost
6 seeker
5 SA Tharne's
+2 exceptional strength

30% threat
crushing wave guard
earth grab guard

I'm not piling on  . . . but I don't see hjealing amp listed anywhere in any of that stuff.  What was the amp on the guy the leader wanted tanking?  That's reason enough for you not to be tanking.
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Reply #57 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:38pm
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douche or not. not my concern idc

one person cant ruin a raid. not even tod.


edit* besides with spamming of intentional grief spells on the horoth tank and/or healers.
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Reply #58 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:39pm
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someguy wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:38pm:
douche or not. not my concern idc

one person cant ruin a raid. not even tod.


They didn't say he ruined the raid. They said lag ruined the raid. Consumer is the one claiming they all sucked. They completed with less lag just fine after he left.
  

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Reply #59 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:42pm
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Grace wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:39pm:
They didn't say he ruined the raid. They said lag ruined the raid. Consumer is the one claiming they all sucked. They completed with less lag just fine after he left.


actually it was implied he was the reason for failure after reform group completed without him. even if he sucks as a tank whoever the leader intended to tank originally could have been back up.
  
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Reply #60 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:42pm
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It is a known fact that suck can create lag.
  
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Reply #61 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:46pm
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Grace wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:19pm:
Huh

You are a fucking tool.

Also, 350hp on a 3x TR rogue isn't anywhere near "good enough." For fuck's sake. It's not even good enough on a capped first life rogue.

Honestly, I'd say 350 HP on a first life capped 32 point build Rogue is BARE minimum.

375-385 HPs would be pretty good actually and 405+ would be excellent.

For a 3 Life pure capped Rogue, I'd expect 425+ HPs.

BTW...this is assuming the toon is a Drow. If a Human, Halfling, or Half-Orc, add at least 20 HPs. If a WF or Dwarf, add 40 - 60 HPs.
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Reply #62 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:50pm
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Arkat wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:46pm:
Honestly, I'd say 350 HP on a first life capped 32 point build Rogue is BARE minimum.

375-385 HPs would be pretty good actually and 405+ would be excellent.

For a 3 Life pure capped Rogue, I'd expect 425+ HPs.


not to mention i think they were running mid level quests sooo... not like that was his endgame HP. dreams of insanity wasnt it?
  
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Reply #63 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:54pm
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someguy wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:42pm:
actually it was implied he was the reason for failure after reform group completed without him. even if he sucks as a tank whoever the leader intended to tank originally could have been back up.


What is up with people's reading comprehension lately? That isn't at all what was implied. The reason they pointed out that they completed just fine without him the second run was because he was claiming they were all so gimped they couldn't manage to finish a normal ToD.

Arkat wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:46pm:
Honestly, I'd say 350 HP on a first life capped 32 point build Rogue is BARE minimum.

375-385 HPs would be pretty good actually and 405+ would be excellent.

For a 3 Life pure capped Rogue, I'd expect 425+ HPs.



My first life capped rogue has 397 currently and will have another 40 before she TRs, and that was with a starting 14 con. 350 is pathetic.
  

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Reply #64 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:08pm
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Grace wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:19pm:
Huh

You are a fucking tool.

Also, 350hp on a 3x TR rogue isn't anywhere near "good enough." For fuck's sake. It's not even good enough on a capped first life rogue.


That was level 15, my capped HP was sustained around 480 at the lowest. ~435 unbuffed IIRC.
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Reply #65 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm
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Grace wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 2:54pm:
What is up with people's reading comprehension lately? That isn't at all what was implied. The reason they pointed out that they completed just fine without him the second run was because he was claiming they were all so gimped they couldn't manage to finish a normal ToD.



My first life capped rogue has 397 currently and will have another 40 before she TRs, and that was with a starting 14 con. 350 is pathetic.


No I wasn't I complained that their joking and lack of good PCs caused the failure and wasted an hour of everyone's time.

As for HP read above.
  

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Reply #66 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm
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So you know, as a person that plays a healer occasionally, it is preferable to have a someone with some high ac/healing amp over a big fat dps machine tanking horoth. Not saying you had one available, but most healers will tell you this.
  

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Reply #67 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:18pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm:
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So you know, as a person that plays a healer occasionally, it is preferable to have a someone with some high ac/healing amp over a big fat dps machine tanking horoth. Not saying you had one available, but most healers will tell you this.

My worst nightmare as a healer is healing a WF Barb with no WF Healer's Friend and no Healing Amp as it's tanking Horoth.

My next worst nightmare is healing a Half-Orc or Dwarf Barb with no Healing Amp while it's tanking Horoth.

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Reply #68 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:21pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm:
Consumer -
So you know, as a person that plays a healer occasionally, it is preferable to have a someone with some high ac/healing amp over a big fat dps machine tanking horoth. Not saying you had one available, but most healers will tell you this.


I do know, being someone who has played a healer occaionally. Without the AC that is.

I was the only one in the group that I trusted to keep the bosses agro in one place having seen one of there selected tanks lose it multiple times before, not just to myself in other raids. I have also had other problems with so called tank that tell you to come in and DPS and you take agro. I then lose more and more DPS with them saying it will be fine and it never is, I find this to solely be a problem with WF tanks.

Imo you can always trust PUG DPS to be PUG DPS, however pug healers can be very slow on the heals and pug tanks are never really tanks, even I was not an ideal tank as everyone has pointed out.

The prestige class tanks are rare and usually do not have the gear to keep agro from anyone, it's in my experience unusual to see one in a PUG raid.
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Reply #69 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:22pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm:
Consumer -
So you know, as a person that plays toons that occasionally casts curative spells, ((VERY OCCASIONALLY)), it is preferable to have someone with some high ac/healing amp over a big fat dps machine tanking horoth. Not saying you had one available, but most healers will tell you this.


FTFY! Cheesy
  
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Reply #70 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:24pm
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Ruinhorn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm:
No I wasn't I complained that their joking and lack of good PCs caused the failure and wasted an hour of everyone's time.

As for HP read above.


Yes, I'm sure ALL OF THEM had crappy PCs, and that's why they lagged. It's not at all because DDO can be laggy. Lag doesn't exist in DDO.

And joking! *clutches heart and faints* In a GAME???? WTF is this having fun thing??? They should be ashamed of themselves. DDO is srs bznz.
  

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Reply #71 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:25pm
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Ruinhorn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:21pm:
I do know, being someone who has played a healer occaionally. Without the AC that is.

I was the only one in the group that I trusted to keep the bosses agro in one place having seen one of there selected tanks lose it multiple times before, not just to myself in other raids. I have also had other problems with so called tank that tell you to come in and DPS and you take agro. I then lose more and more DPS with them saying it will be fine and it never is, I find this to solely be a problem with WF tanks.

Imo you can always trust PUG DPS to be PUG DPS, however pug healers can be very slow on the heals and pug tanks are never really tanks, even I was not an ideal tank as everyone has pointed out.

The prestige class tanks are rare and usually do not have the gear to keep agro from anyone, it's in my experience unusual to see one in a PUG raid.


When I read that all I saw was, "No one is as good at me. Now suck it."
  

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Reply #72 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:33pm
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stainer wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:10pm:
Consumer -
So you know, as a person that plays a healer occasionally, it is preferable to have a someone with some high ac/healing amp over a big fat dps machine tanking horoth. Not saying you had one available, but most healers will tell you this.

Consumer has used mathematical calculations to prove that is dps is better than yours.  And mine.  And everyone elses.  I want some calculations on how your way is better!
  
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Reply #73 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:36pm
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Ruinhorn wrote on Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:21pm:
I do know, being someone who has played a healer occaionally. Without the AC that is.

I was the only one in the group that I trusted to keep the bosses agro in one place having seen one of there selected tanks lose it multiple times before, not just to myself in other raids. I have also had other problems with so called tank that tell you to come in and DPS and you take agro. I then lose more and more DPS with them saying it will be fine and it never is, I find this to solely be a problem with WF tanks.


And as soon as you are the party leader, then you get to make that call.

If you want to be the tank that bad, then put up you own LFM, you insuffereable twat.
  

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Reply #74 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 3:37pm
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Yeah, the only one he could trust in a PUG he wasn't leading.

Maybe, following instructions is to hard?


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