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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #75 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	Bill Z Bubb wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 11:36am: I don't understand why they store all of this information on the client.� What's to keep someone from changing the shroud chest pointer to +4 tome instead of Large Bone? Loot is generated server side, derp. Information is stored client side for various reasons, most likely performance.


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #76 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:15pm	Print Post
	NEXT PAGE WHY DONT YOU WANT ME TO SEE CDR'S POST


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #77 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	YaBBa DaBBa broke again

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Rodrak Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 232 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #78 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:24pm	Print Post
	Bill Z Bubb wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 11:36am: I don't understand why they store all of this information on the client.� What's to keep someone from changing the shroud chest pointer to +4 tome instead of Large Bone? I'm wondering myself. Not because you can change anything in game - you can't, everything happens on the server anyway - but it'd stop me from seeing it The client is like a tv remote... you can't really alter anything. But I guess the data is still there because some of it is actually used to display things before the game is fully loaded or sometimes to speed up things (like recently the list of cannith crafting recipes is no longer downloaded every time you click on a device etc.). I guess it's simply a lot of work to change something that works more or less fine for 6 years already when leaving it alone doesn't hurt too much. The same system is used not only in ddo but in lotro too, so any major changes to the game structure = lot of work to retain compatibility. I guess the data might be used for debug purposes too and for the GMs. Most likely all the GM functionality is inside the client and only requires proper login to access. But that's only guessing, I have no idea about real reasons.


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Bill Z Bubb Boobies Controller Offline I only know three chords! Posts: 1238 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2012	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #79 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	And that's what I would have thought, all the decision making done on the server, but to have all of the chest information you've found on the client just seemed strange to me.

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Dracosanct Ex Member	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #80 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 1:25pm	Print Post
	Quote: No, it's because you're awful and rest is amazeballs. Gawna still hate me.


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Schmoe Epic Poster Offline One world, one soul Posts: 4219 Location: A chair Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #81 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 1:38pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Aug 7^th, 2012 at 6:19pm: No one takes me seriously without a 2006 join date, 15k rep and 4,000 posts http://www.ddovault.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/sad.gif Bwahahahahaha! Take you seriously... aahahahah... hooo boy... that's a good one.

	"As my windshield melts, and my tears evaporate, Leaving only charcoal to defend - Finally I understand the feelings of the few, Ashes and diamonds, foe and friend, we were all equal in the end." -Waters
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Invelios VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1965 Location: Houston, TX Joined: Aug 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #82 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Schmoe wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 1:38pm: Bwahahahahaha! Take you seriously... aahahahah... hooo boy... that's a good one. Tread Carefully, Schmoe, Rest is a member of the:

	Ghallanda: Invellios,� Duesex, Aedificatus
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #83 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 2:34pm	Print Post
	Hey now Gawna is the only member of the wolfpac that likes to get manhandled by overly muscled, mostly naked, sweaty, oily men.


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Gawna Ex Member	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #84 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 2:42pm	Print Post
	I like my men like I like my coffee: 1 creamer, 2 sugars.


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kavinsky Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 213 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #85 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Rodrak wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:24pm: I'm wondering myself. Not because you can change anything in game - you can't, everything happens on the server anyway - but it'd stop me from seeing it The client is like a tv remote... you can't really alter anything. But I guess the data is still there because some of it is actually used to display things before the game is fully loaded or sometimes to speed up things (like recently the list of cannith crafting recipes is no longer downloaded every time you click on a device etc.). I guess it's simply a lot of work to change something that works more or less fine for 6 years already when leaving it alone doesn't hurt too much. The same system is used not only in ddo but in lotro too, so any major changes to the game structure = lot of work to retain compatibility. I guess the data might be used for debug purposes too and for the GMs. Most likely all the GM functionality is inside the client and only requires proper login to access. But that's only guessing, I have no idea about real reasons. Like this?: (note: there is a delay in getting character information from the server while running ddo in Wine/Linux, so this shows up everytime i log in for a couple of seconds)


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Vexation Waterworks Kobold Offline Blah, Blah, Blah... Posts: 173 Joined: Jul 11^th, 2012	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #86 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 4:29am: Someone should ask if raids will be getting handwraps and if he will make docents that are useful beyond item sets. Yeah, cause we all need more infractions. Or... maybe he'll answer! BAHAHAHAHA


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dubyprime Waterworks Kobold Offline Stainer scares me. Posts: 134 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #87 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:05pm	Print Post
	Continuum was a huge surprise. I've been really impressed with that show.


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Stele Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 231 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #88 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	Shouldn't that be - Gets ass kicked by Chinese athletes again. Stop watching sports! We have a rocket!


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #89 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:18pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 12:20pm: YaBBa DaBBa broke again YaBBa DaBBa DoN'T

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #90 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	Stele wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm: http://i.imgur.com/UlZZy.jpg Shouldn't that be - Gets ass kicked by Chinese athletes again. Stop watching sports! We have a rocket! I personally liked the story about how they ran out of condoms for the Olympic Village a full 5 days before the games ended.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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qwerty1234 Ex Member	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #91 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	Stele wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm: Shouldn't that be - Gets ass kicked by Chinese athletes again. Stop watching sports! We have a rocket!


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kavinsky Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 213 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2012	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #92 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:20pm	Print Post
	dubyprime wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:05pm: Continuum was a huge surprise.� I've been really impressed with that show. Yes, but still no season two pickup
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rev Jim American Azog Offline I GOT VEINS Posts: 3627 Location: South Alabama Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #93 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	Stele wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:12pm: http://i.imgur.com/UlZZy.jpg Shouldn't that be - Gets ass kicked by Chinese athletes again. Stop watching sports! We have a rocket! psttt we are ahead now. let's see the count USA: Leading medal count � � Owns Moon � Owns Mars Yur-rope :� � Has falling currency � Has Greece OBV winner? USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA! Yur-rope fags, are you even trying?

	Quote: Rev. Jim. He is the only guy here that posts quality, you should all learn from him.
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Zhalian Dragon Raider Offline Drama is best served fresh. Posts: 280 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #94 - Aug 8^th, 2012 at 10:51pm	Print Post
	Yeah that standing order of 100,000 condoms for the games after the 70,000 wasn't enough last time was pretty good.

	Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks
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dubyprime Waterworks Kobold Offline Stainer scares me. Posts: 134 Joined: Jul 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #95 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 12:16am	Print Post
	kavinsky wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 7:20pm: Yes, but still no season two pickup Its still early. Season one just ended. I thought it was the highest rated show on Showcase. It'll probably get picked up. Sci-Fi will probably pick it up in the US too and that may end up killing the show after a season or two.l


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Stele Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 231 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #96 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 3:49am	Print Post
	rev Jim wrote on Aug 8^th, 2012 at 10:26pm: psttt we are ahead now. 'Fraid not, the medal table is based solely on golds, the loser medals don't count unless there's a tie. China lead 36 to 34. 2008 China had 51 to your 36. If you guys had known it was actually going to be close this year you could probably have saved everyone some tax $ and not bothered with the rocket.


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Stele Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 231 Joined: Jan 29^th, 2011	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #97 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:00am	Print Post
	UK is currently 3rd with 22, which is pretty damn fine IMO. If the European teams were grouped together (God forbid). UK, France and Germany alone are on 37. If you haven't guessed I live in London, and get 24/7 exposure to this stuff...


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ZeroBoost Titan Demolisher Offline res ipsa loquitur Posts: 381 Joined: Sep 1^st, 2010	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #98 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:08am	Print Post
	Stele wrote on Aug 9^th, 2012 at 3:49am: 'Fraid not, the medal table is based solely on golds, the loser medals don't count unless there's a tie. China lead 36 to 34. 2008 China had 51 to your 36. If you guys had known it was actually going to be close this year you could probably have saved everyone some tax $ and not bothered with the rocket. It's ok though because more track and field events are coming up where China has a total of 15 medals compared to the United States' 311 gold.


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rev Jim American Azog Offline I GOT VEINS Posts: 3627 Location: South Alabama Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Feather of Sun Logic Reply #99 - Aug 9^th, 2012 at 4:11am	Print Post
	your dumb is showing. Do research before running your internet mouth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medal_table#Medal_count_ranking This difference in rankings has its origins in the early days of the Olympics, when the IOC did not publish or recognise medal tables.[1] Before 2008, the difference in ranking system received scant notice, since in recent Olympic history the country that led in total medals also led in the gold count. China and the U.S. bucked this trend at the 2008 Summer Olympics, topping the gold and total medal tallies respectively,[13] and a similar situation occurred at the 2010 Winter Olympics when Canada and the U.S. finished with the most gold medals and total medals respectively.[12] Other exceptions are the 1896, 1912 and 1964 Summer Olympics when the United States finished first in gold medal count but second in the overall medal count. In an August 24, 2008 news conference, IOC President Jacques Rogge confirmed that the IOC does not have a view on any particular ranking system. now say you're sorry, you freedom hating commie! USA #1 USA #1 USA #1 USA #1

	Quote: Rev. Jim. He is the only guy here that posts quality, you should all learn from him.
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