This is the internet, people don't talk about positives.

GreyMouser wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:32am:


Go home, it's Sunday *cuddles*

I like the instances, a lot - wish that most of the earlier stuff could be scaled so you don't miss it when passing through and can play whenever. The active combat, too. Nothing MMOish has come close to the feeling of the dungeons in DDO. I'm not a fan of collecting rat tails, so that's the main draw for me, I guess. The flexibility of the character design system is a big  pull too.

I am a casual player these days due to time constraints but I will probably be here now and then until they turn off the lights, annoying bugs notwithstanding.

GreyMouser wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 9:32am:


DDO Players could talk about positives, but since Turbine's corporate motto is "Ignore the players, they're doing it wrong -and- they're the enemy", there's little point in being positive.

Well, position still matters more than sitting down, playing piano, and letting your stats talk for you in about half the content, so there's that.

Up till this latest guy, they did understand that item-motivation thrived best when it was balanced for how long it took you to get the thing, not some arbitrary level score. Didn't always do the best job, but they sure as hell seemed to try at least.

The random encounters system they did with kings forest was a great tech-example, and if they run with it more than as a one time gimmick, that could breathe a shit-ton into the replay value (bonus points if they slap those in while reviewing enhancements vs quests as they relate to the levels you actually get them at).

A monk doesn't play like a fighter doesn't play like a barb, doesn't play like a rogue unless you're:
a- retarded and getting carried
b- beat the snot out of the system and bypassed the dice entirely (One of the reasons I get so damned twitchy about that. Getting easier to do. Not a total loss yet though.).

cdr wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 10:06am:



This response to Popejubal is a perfect microcosm of what's wrong with DDO - they implement good ideas/mechanics at the overall big-picture level then don't take the time to ensure the details actually work out well. 

It's what frustrates me the most - the game could be SO much better, but the dev team appears content with putting out mediocre to poor quality.

I still play; but due to this, I'm spending no more TP until I see some attention to detail... well, that and 15.2 completely broke the store to the point I couldn't buy TP if I wanted to.  Bug report got standard reply and nothing more - again - totally uncaring about details.

stainer wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 11:09am:



lies.  if it was true, the servers would be in a constant state of reboot.

Bigjunk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:

Are you saying that people play DDO mostly due to the strength/attraction of D&D, or that Turbine has done their job well with implementing D&D as an MMO?

Bigjunk wrote on Nov 4^th, 2012 at 1:19pm:


That's certainly why I jumped into the game in 2009.

"Holy shit, there's a Dungeons and Dragons MMO?  And I don't have to pay for it?"

...turns out that I did pay for it, but the fact that I didn't *have* to made it a lot more tempting.

It used to be D&D...

Nowadays I'm just playing it because of friends, as the links left to D&D shrink with every update.
( any edition prior and including 3.5... 4th is a WoW thingie made PnP and doesn't deserve being called D&D  )

I didn't come into it because of D and D, I've never played PnP, but it gave it the brand recognition since I'd played Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, and most of the other D and D games out there. I would never have joined on spec were it not initially free to play, though.

-True action combat
-Bosses that stand still

Pick one and only one.
Also: paralyzed, stunned and tripped mobs that move around, you are not facing xxx, abilities that go off and do nothing - you name it, if it can be broken, in DDO, it is. Don't even get me started on Lolth's hit box.
Maybe in 2004, DDO cut it for True Action combat. But today, giving an enemy a no-fail concentration check and infinite SP to make him challenging instead of giving him decent AI is retarded.

I hate to break it to you, but anyone who is going to leave DDO for any reason already has. So why would they bother fixing anything else? The people who are still playing DDO are going to be paying for whatever shit Turbine shovels down their throat next, no matter how terrible the quality is going to be.

Want true action combat? I'm beta testing RaiderZ right now, and it's AWESOME. All the targeting is done with a reticle. You can't hit Tab to find your next target - you have to AIM at it. You can't hit F5 to target your party member for a heal - you have to AIM it. The spellcasting and combat is SO MUCH more fluid, natural, and fun. The largest part of an individuals survivability is dodging and maneuvering. Bosses are huge (but don't have retarded hit boxes!), fun to fight, a variety of skills used to dodge or block attacks.  Frankly, the combat in it is so fun that I would play through then entire game if it were only just a single player action adventure game, with a set amount of abilities and gear to pick up. Luckily, tho, it has a diverse multi-classing sytem, 35 levels to customize your character through (40 plannned), tons of gear, fun PvP, the works. I have a pure cleric, but I'm planning on splashing in some Sorc for SP regen, and I'm making a 17defender/ 17bezerker/ 1cleric.

I really only started playing to test it out because Neverwinter Online is going to be using a similar targeting and combat system. I expected to hop on, throw a few heals around to get a feel for it, and uninstall. But it is FUN. Now I'm spending time at the character planner and mapping out the gear I'll be using.

Oh, and did I mention it's not full of Pay 2 Win bullshit? There's no mana pots for sale at the store, you don't have to grind a mission a gazzillion times to level up or break down and buy XP enhancers, they don't charge for any classes or abilities, and they don't charge for any access to any content or equipment.

And yeah, it's in beta - I expected it to have at least as many bugs as DDO - but it doesn't even come close.
The level of quality control, customer service, planning and implementation at Turbine is just not what anyone should expect from a professional software company.

Wow, 4 classes in RaiderZ. Going totally to play that game.
Wait... there comes Turbine with another shovel full of shit for me...RaiderZ must wait,sorry.

- I never played before an MMO. Why DDO?

1) It has the D&D, and if you play casual, lvls 1 to 10 are a lot of fun.
2) It is f2p
3) I really like the enhancement system.
4) ...
5) Profit