Eladiun wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 11:18am:

Feather is VERY GOOD at his job. He told us so!

rest wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:


“You don’t like our bug?  Then we’ll introduce bigger bugs!” - Feather_of_Sun

rest wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 2:49pm:


There should be no "exclusion of regular loot", even rodrak said they come from the plat/gems table.

cdr wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:11pm:



They may come from separate tables but it's possible that it's dipping into that table too many times.  Instead of two roles on the loot table and one on the gem table it's two rolls on the gem and one on the loot.  Or it could be the loot boost f'n things up as usual.

stainer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:19pm:



Shard and Seal drops have been wonky for 6 months.

Based on the error message, outfits might be recoverable. It looks like a bad join based on them deleting a reference record.

Can't login to game, but if you had a lootgen item deleted from the bank or inventory, do your bank/inventory spaces add up correctly? ie Do you have 23 open spots showing if you visually count, but according to the display in the bank show as 78 of 100 used? That would imply there is an object there that the code can't display because of a failed query.

Not really defending Turbine, and the decision to get rid of outfits makes no sense (except the one with the sticks in the back that make you look like a spatula when you're barkskinned. Fuck that outfit), but honestly I don't pin this on them as a technical fail. I can totally see how it could have happened. The character wipe on lama got rid of any existing items where it might have been noticed, and the stray person like Dio who lost an outfit on copy may not have been given a great deal of attention because character copy is otherwise not reliable. Remember the speculation was all about it being crafted. On lama, since outfits didn't drop, the bug obviously wouldn't be noticed, and who really would notice if outfits stopped dropping? Or morningstars. Or greataxes that look like rakes. Or any number of other things.

To me, on this one, its not that the error occurred, but how they address it

New characters are getting birthday battle boxes. Yay cake!

mystafyi wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:


If you're dumb, maybe... you'll always gain more from the exploits than you lose from the bugs.

cdr wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:40pm:


to be honest, I just login now to chit chat and play with friends. please dont tell me a version of chestapalooza is back, would be typical turbine though. I dont have time during the week to play or run through the list of old exploits and bugs that keep coming back.

it does make for interesting forum drama though, so keep those macro's running

Happy 7th Anniversary.  It's nice that after 7 years you finally have a procedure to test spells.  Better late than never I guess...