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Mar 12th, 2013 at 9:28am
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I think I'm done with Khopesh. They're nice, but there's so many things with Fort and the best ones to come out recently are the Drow ones, and maybe the Ironwood ones kinda.

I'm thinking with the upgrade to Deathnips and Balizarde getting fixed back to Piercing forever ago, I've decided to make the switch. It doesn't hurt that with Black Armor and precision you can now get 45% Fort Bypass without even trying.

That being said, I'm looking to LR to Piercing Specced, and while I'm at it, would like to pick up IPS, since the only thing I'm missing currently to get it is the base 19 Dex, which is easily changed in LR (at least til I get a +4, and then a +5 upgrade time).

I'm looking for some help redoing the build and feat progression now. I know my base stats will change a bit, but I'll need 16 Dex (or 15 if I spend a Level Up), and I need to fit in Precision and IPS on a 12/6/2 fighter/ranger/rogue.

Any thoughts on how the progression could work?
  

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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 10:54am
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It looks like a very good idea.  Khopesh was defacto nerfed by coming out with some wonderful one-handers that simply aren't Khopeshs. 

Balizardes and Celestia are just excellent and if you decide you want to use the Nightmares for the WooWoo it doesn't matter if you aren't specced for them are you're swinging them for the level drains anyway.  Those Death-nips look interesting as well.

My "main" never was Khopesh specced and became my best damage-dealer.  My khopesh specced toons are slowly dumping those weapons, even the guy with two EChaos blades and 3 Tier III Alchemicals.

Not so sure about IPS as archer's focus is really strong, but definitely take PDS and IC:ranged on a fighter with a zillion feats.  FoTW+Manshot is just awesome as is letting off an MS with a 10 stack of Master's Blitz.

I just got done TRing out the ranger levels on Meathelemt so he'd be a better tank, but other than two raids I can't think of a single encounter in this game where a tank is a better option over a better strategy.  Very likely I'll be going back to a 12/6/2 build similar to what you're doing.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 11:12am
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IPS is just fun, and seeing as 6 ranger gives me all the prereq feats, I just need the 19 Base Dex to pick it up.

I'm just confused on feat progression mostly. What to take, what not to, etc
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 11:28am
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The Ranger doesn't give you Point Blank Shot which you also need for IPS
  
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The Ranger doesn't give you Point Blank Shot which you also need for IPS


fighters have zillions of feats.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 12:00pm
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The Ranger doesn't give you Point Blank Shot which you also need for IPS


Are you 100%? I could have sworn it said I was only missing the 19 Dex, but I'll check to check after work to be sure.

I'll screenshot it if I'm right and apologize if I'm wrong.

Also, Big is right in saying I have a buttload of feats to play with. Hence this thread.
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Reply #6 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:10pm
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lol @ ironwood khopeshes being anything but junk. IMO, of course.


i was also considering changing my khopesh kensai over to the new improved deathnips, but the lack of any other decent named heavy picks kind of put the kibosh on that.  i don't really want to grind out dual alchemicals, and GS is kind of old hat these days.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:13pm
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IPS Prerequisites: Dexterity 19, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, and Base attack bonus +11

6 ranger grants:
1st Favored Enemy, Wild Empathy, Bow Strength, Wilderness Lore
2nd Rapid Shot, Two Weapon Fighting
3rd Diehard      
5th 2nd Favored Enemy
6th Manyshot, Improved Two Weapon Fighting

You'll still need PBS.
  
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Bigjunk wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 11:48am:
fighters have zillions of feats.


so did i say anywhere that he wouldn't have the spare feat?
i pointed out that he was missing a prereq
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 2:53pm
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rest wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
lol @ ironwood khopeshes being anything but junk. IMO, of course.


i was also considering changing my khopesh kensai over to the new improved deathnips, but the lack of any other decent named heavy picks kind of put the kibosh on that.  i don't really want to grind out dual alchemicals, and GS is kind of old hat these days.


I saw a guildy running the Limbchopper Khopesh from the Droaam Chain. Weren't there H Picks too?

Also, running Piercing Specced means I can abuse Balizarde too.
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 2:54pm
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rest wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
IPS Prerequisites: Dexterity 19, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, and Base attack bonus +11

6 ranger grants:
1st Favored Enemy, Wild Empathy, Bow Strength, Wilderness Lore
2nd Rapid Shot, Two Weapon Fighting
3rd Diehard      
5th 2nd Favored Enemy
6th Manyshot, Improved Two Weapon Fighting

You'll still need PBS.


Maybe it's a visual error then. PBS is good though so idgaf about taking it.
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 3:35pm
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Hey Smrti. I think you should dualwield ESoSes for max DPS, you hump.
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:17pm
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Smrti wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
I saw a guildy running the Limbchopper Khopesh from the Droaam Chain. Weren't there H Picks too?

Also, running Piercing Specced means I can abuse Balizarde too.


Those picks used to be the shit back when hold = autocrit. I haven't even looked at them since. They were like thundering maiming or something like that.

So you're going to be pierce spec'd, but what particular weapon are you choosing as your kensai focus?
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2013 at 6:07pm
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rest wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 4:17pm:
Those picks used to be the shit back when hold = autocrit. I haven't even looked at them since. They were like thundering maiming or something like that.

So you're going to be pierce spec'd, but what particular weapon are you choosing as your kensai focus?


I'm going to try Picks first, since they seem to be better overall than Rapiers on a High Str toon, but I will spend a bit of AP toward Rapiers as well for Balizarde.

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Hey Smrti. I think you should dualwield ESoSes for max DPS, you hump.


Totes Magotes!!!

That's a great idea! You're the best Gunga!
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Reply #14 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 1:14am
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Math only complicates things but how the hell is Deathnip better than drow khop ?
Balizarde/Nightmare are awesome, I have dual Celestia ( with imp crit ) and not that impressed.
And what the f do we know, maybe there will be good khop again unlike the pos last one.
  
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Wipe wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 1:14am:
Math only complicates things but how the hell is Deathnip better than drow khop ?
Balizarde/Nightmare are awesome, I have dual Celestia ( with imp crit ) and not that impressed.
And what the f do we know, maybe there will be good khop again unlike the pos last one.


Drowpesh don't get a slot, and their lure was the Tactical Suffixes they had, along with increased damage dice and increased threat range.

Deathnip now has a Red Slot and Improved Heartseeker, plus has extended Crit Range as well, meaning on a 17-20, you get x4. 19-20 will be x6 with OC and LD +1 multipier.

Also, by going Piercing Specced, I can run Balizarde as well, and I save a feat by not taking Khopesh Prof.

Basically, Khopesh are cool, but I don't think, with the current choices available, that they are worth the feat anymore.
  

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tbh I dont see the need for a slot on a trash beater, for everything else there are crafted AML20 HB of GxB (metal if needed)

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what I could see would be the immense fun using nips with unbridled fury
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I am so at a fucking loss with the gear in DDO. I level too slow, farm too slow, and I am always out of date.
  
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I am so at a fucking loss and I am always out of date.


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Reply #19 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 9:30am
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tbh I dont see the need for a slot on a trash beater, for everything else there are crafted AML20 HB of GxB (metal if needed)

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what I could see would be the immense fun using nips with unbridled fury


Helps with Demonweb DR a bit. Slotting good means I can basically run it full time.
  

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Reply #20 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 11:24am
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Smrti wrote on Mar 12th, 2013 at 11:12am:
I'm just confused on feat progression mostly. What to take, what not to, etc


Take Iron Will, Bullheaded, Discipline, Luck of Heroes and Resilience.  Cheesy
  
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Reply #21 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 11:36am
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Slug wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 11:24am:
Take Iron Will, Bullheaded, Discipline, Luck of Heroes and Resilience.  Cheesy


You forgot Diehard
  

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Gunga wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 9:00am:
The first step to recovery is acceptance.


Well, that is not very much if you donīt want to make the second step.
  
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Smrti wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 11:36am:
You forgot Diehard


A friend in my static group took improved shield mastery...in a THF build.
  
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Reply #24 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:20pm
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A friend in my static group took improved shield mastery...in a THF build.

It's very good feat for thf.
Smrti wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 7:03am:
Drowpesh don't get a slot, and their lure was the Tactical Suffixes they had, along with increased damage dice and increased threat range.

I know the numbers man. Don't know how to count 1.5w in barrage so until I see THE MATH, not convinced.
But hey, it's the coolest looking shit in game so your enthusiasm is understandable.
Thinking  about summer expansion too, it's gonna go to shit anyway.
You got a point with tactics. Unless you are Madmatt, non monk cc is so fucking hard. Cripey's 72 stun post makes me cry.
  
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