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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Shiradi Wiz Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	Thinking about revamping my pure WF Wizzy AM to a Shiradi EVO caster with the free LR. Any tips on feats and gear and etc? I've thought about +3ing to 2 rogue split and using Insightful Reflex to help in Tor and shit. Thoughts? Suggestions? I suck as a caster, but I need something to farm with I guess. Smrti can't do solo EE unfortunately.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Check out sergod's build he posted on the DDO forums. Dunno how good it is, but it's about the only wiz build I've seen posted.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	Most prefer monk over rogue for the feats.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #3 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	The feat breakdown on my 18/2 AM is as follows Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 2 (Wizard) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell Level 3 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Arcane Initiate Level 4 (Wizard) Level 5 (Wizard) Level 6 (Wizard) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation Level 7 (Wizard) Level 8 (Wizard) Level 9 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes Level 10 (Wizard) Level 11 (Wizard) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell Level 12 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation Level 13 (Wizard) Level 14 (Rogue) Level 15 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell Level 16 (Wizard) Level 17 (Wizard) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell Level 18 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Conjuration Level 19 (Wizard) Level 20 (Wizard) Level 21 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness Level 22 (Wizard) Level 23 (Wizard) Level 24 (Wizard) Feat: (Selected) Epic Mental Toughness It's ~125sp and 30hp behind Zergods build, But I love 3sp webs, and not relying on others for traps.

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #4 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:12pm: Most prefer monk over rogue for the feats. How many extra feats does a Wizard need? I could understand that on a Sorc, but Wizard?

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Osharan Tregarth Horoluth Raider Offline I'm an ass... Deal with it. Posts: 2663 Location: Fresno Joined: Aug 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #5 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: How many extra feats does a Wizard need? I could understand that on a Sorc, but Wizard? For a general loot farming character, you're probably going to want something that can disable traps. If you're just aiming for Tor, then you shouldn't need to worry about it. Rogue is nice for the evasion, artificer can also work if you aren't generally using quarterstaffs(can't equip a rune arm with one), and the monk splash would have an extra toughness feat or something along those lines to play with.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #6 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:52pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 5:53pm: But I love 3sp webs, and not relying on others for traps. What's your conjuration at in Shiradi, worth it ?


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #7 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 10:52pm	Print Post
	If you really think you need traps or locks, you can bring a hire. They can get pretty much everything even on EE. Or bring a dualbox.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2013 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	Traps/Locks aren't my aim. The goal is high Reflex and Evasion. And UMD kind of. I might go Monk too though, we'll see.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #9 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	Wipe wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 8:52pm: What's your conjuration at in Shiradi, worth it ? i have 3 cleric lives, 54conj dc.� it's not no fail, but with how cheap they are, i put spiderman to shame. @ CDR I know i could just get a rogue hireling, but I don't personally think the extra hp and sp is worth the hassle.
	« Last Edit: Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 1:28pm by Munkenmo »
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #10 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: How many extra feats does a Wizard need? I could understand that on a Sorc, but Wizard? All of them! It means you can take extend if you want to bother with it. And maybe dodge. Getting your wizard's dodge into double digits is awesome.


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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #11 - Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 9:27pm: All of them! It means you can take extend if you want to bother with it. And maybe dodge. Getting your wizard's dodge into double digits is awesome. Got a build for me? I'm all ears.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #12 - Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 1:47am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 10:34pm: Got a build for me? I'm all ears. I haven't sat down and put one together. This is purely conjecture. My evasion wizard is soley for the past life feat. 11 more FoT and 9 more CitW and I'm back to FvS.


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #13 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:23am	Print Post
	Smrti wrote on Mar 21^st, 2013 at 7:59pm: How many extra feats does a Wizard need? I could understand that on a Sorc, but Wizard? Potentially a 2 monk split can grab a staff and remain centered. That's a possible +2 to saves or con. After being really frustrated with being a dc necro in gianthold I finally broke down and tr'd him. Just hit level 24 again and it's been a blast. Even my own guildies are commenting about my inadvertent kill stealing. It's a shame really imo, because I always liked playing a wiz that gift wrapped mobs and killed a great number of them. Or controlled all the trash during boss fights. Now I just kill everything when not in EE GH.


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #14 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:40am	Print Post
	I used Zergod's post as a basis, but with my own tweaking: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=411885 For me I went: Warforged Race 18Int 18Con Split the rest between Chr/Wis Feats: Toughness (Monk Feat)Level 1 Toughness (Monk Feat)Level 10 Maximize Spell Empower Spell Extend Quicken Spell Enlarge Spell Spell Focus: Evocation Greater Spell Focus: Evocation Mental Toughness Improved Mental Toughness Insightful Reflexes Wizard Past Life Epic Toughness Epic Mental Toughness Active Twists atm: Energy Burst Draconic Reflex one Exalted Angel sp one Wearing shit gear he's got 3100 something sp.� Killing mobs is exponentially cheaper using meta'd sla's.� I no longer cringe when people start asking for multiple buffs because I'm not potientially oom two encounters into the quest. Turbine really screwed the pooch by raising dc's like they have.� The Shiradi wizard kills faster, and for less sp than grinding for dc's and watching them fail over and over again. I'll be tweaking more as I regear (no longer human) and such.
	« Last Edit: Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:43am by Madcow430 »

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Smrti VoD Slasher Offline I Am Fooling No One Posts: 1920 Location: Denver Joined: Oct 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #15 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	That looks good as a setup. I'll give it a shot.

	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 20^th, 2012 at 9:41pm: All hail Smrti. Felgor wrote on Sep 11^th, 2012 at 11:18pm: Fuck Australia. rev Jim wrote on Sep 12^th, 2012 at 8:40am: I wish I was a rich black woman sometimes........
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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #16 - Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	My Sorc and Wiz are making there way over to Shiradi as well. Both will end up in Blue Scale. I might make the Wiz Evoc/Conj to kep the web spamming.

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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #17 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 8:26pm: My Sorc and Wiz are making there way over to Shiradi as well. Both will end up in Blue Scale. I might make the Wiz Evoc/Conj to kep the web spamming. Practically free webs sounds really nice. Not sure if I can pull that off on half though. I haven't done the 3 cleric lives with him as of yet. Going to check it out anyway though as I learned yesterday that the Sorc past life will qualify one for archmage, which in turn will allow me to swap greater evocation for another feat. Taking conjuration may work well if the dc is reasonable.


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Ekkehart Ex Member	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #18 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 9:34am	Print Post
	I'm leveling something very similar to Munkenmo's build (fewer PLs though). My reasons for doing /rog are more due to ease of leveling (he'll need to tr again for wizard PL, so I might as well get the extra XP this life). If I find the conjuration focus ineffective at cap I'll just swap SF: Conjuration into PL: Arcane Prodigy.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #19 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Mar 24^th, 2013 at 9:40am: I used Zergod's post as a basis, but with my own tweaking: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=411885 For me I went: Warforged Race 18Int 18Con Split the rest between Chr/Wis Feats: Toughness (Monk Feat)Level 1 Toughness (Monk Feat)Level 10 Maximize Spell Empower Spell Extend Quicken Spell Enlarge Spell Spell Focus: Evocation Greater Spell Focus: Evocation Mental Toughness Improved Mental Toughness Insightful Reflexes Wizard Past Life Epic Toughness Epic Mental Toughness Active Twists atm: Energy Burst Draconic Reflex one Exalted Angel sp one Wearing shit gear he's got 3100 something sp.� Killing mobs is exponentially cheaper using meta'd sla's.� I no longer cringe when people start asking for multiple buffs because I'm not potientially oom two encounters into the quest. Turbine really screwed the pooch by raising dc's like they have.� The Shiradi wizard kills faster, and for less sp than grinding for dc's and watching them fail over and over again. I'll be tweaking more as I regear (no longer human) and such. Why Enlarge?� What, no Sorcerer past life feat for another 105 SP? �


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #20 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 8:38pm	Print Post
	enlarge is a lot handier than i thought. i have it on my wiz and use it in citw and fot. of course i kick myself in the ass if i forget to turn it off


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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #21 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 12:14am	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Mar 25^th, 2013 at 7:58pm: Why Enlarge?� What, no Sorcerer past life feat for another 105 SP? � It seems really counter intuitive on the surface; but I've found that using the sla's with enlarge to be pretty fun. The range for the missile spells is pretty limited imo. Enlarge allows you to set up shop and bring them back to it. Or perch and kill from further away. But I often use it to pull boss mobs into aoe where I want them.


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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #22 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 12:43am	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 12:14am: It seems really counter intuitive on the surface; but I've found that using the sla's with enlarge to be pretty fun.� The range for the missile spells is pretty limited imo.� Enlarge allows you to set up shop and bring them back to it.� Or perch and kill from further away.� But I often use it to pull boss mobs into aoe where I want them. Doing FoT last night on my Sorc and I could certainly justify Enlarge on my Wizard as a Shiradi AM Evoker...getting double the range on cheap force spells would be great.

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Madcow430 Shroud Slacker Offline I have Mad Cow Disease Posts: 1207 Location: Arizona Joined: Jul 4^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #23 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 12:43am: Doing FoT last night on my Sorc and I could certainly justify Enlarge on my Wizard as a Shiradi AM Evoker...getting double the range on cheap force spells would be great. Yes, it works for that as well. I'm trying to see if I can manage a feat swap. I'd like to swap greater evo focus for sorc past life. Hopefully that works, and it would be more ideal. I'm told that the sorc past life works for archmage I. So perhaps swapping base evo focus for that and doing the required respeccing of enhancements. I'll try it out sometime today.


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wiz Reply #24 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 4:02pm	Print Post
	Madcow430 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2013 at 1:09pm: Yes, it works for that as well.� I'm trying to see if I can manage a feat swap.� I'd like to swap greater evo focus for sorc past life.� Hopefully that works, and it would be more ideal.� I'm told that the sorc past life works for archmage I.� So perhaps swapping base evo focus for that and doing the required respeccing of enhancements.� I'll try it out sometime today. Greater Evocation Focus is a requirement for Evocation III enhancement (Chain Missiles SLA).


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