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Reply #25 - May 7th, 2013 at 12:18pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:08pm:
Don't know if this is everything, but here is the feat, at least.

Feat Bladeforged:
Duration: 3 sec
Increases Aura of Good: +2 AC and +1 saving throws
-10% Slashing damage, +1 PRR for 3 sec (up to 20+ PRR)
Positive Healing reduced -10%
Grants Repair Light,Moderate,Serious,Critical and Mass Repair Light,Moderate,Serious Damage Spells



The description doesn't even make sense.  It's supposed to be a passive feat (according to Varguille), but apparently it has some sort of stacking PRR with a 3-second duration and no indication of how to trigger or activate it.  It grants spells, but no means to cast them.  WTF?
  

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Reply #26 - May 7th, 2013 at 12:21pm
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The only thing I gathered were that they were characters you could level to 15, but you can't do any sort of reincarnation on.

What a horribly stupid shitty awful idea.
  
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Reply #27 - May 7th, 2013 at 12:21pm
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Running as a mini-LoB is cool. 47 cylons running around in estar is not
Chrome warforged are cool. ONLY chrome warforged are not (how about letting us choose our metal color???)
No TR I can understand (sorta). No LR/GR I do not. Seems overly punitive.
New quests are OK, if a little linear and spoon-fed feeling.
Bladeforged autogranted loot seems meh. Haven't seen any quest loot yet.
  
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Reply #28 - May 7th, 2013 at 12:21pm
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I don't even bother with Lama.  It's too enraging to bug report all the broken shit just to see it hit live and be twice as enraged.
  
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Reply #29 - May 7th, 2013 at 12:52pm
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rest wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
The only thing I gathered were that they were characters you could level to 15, but you can't do any sort of reincarnation on.

What a horribly stupid shitty awful idea.


An idea this dumb had to come from Feather.

Turbine wants us playing NEW stuff and I don't think they're happy about 80% of the toons at any given moment being under level 20.  This will fail like every other hare-brained idea they come up with as TRing is the end-game of DDO.

Also can somebody please explain the logic of a new level 15 quest-chain in which we currently have to run a level 16 chain to access?
  
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Reply #30 - May 7th, 2013 at 1:48pm
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Bigjunk wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:52pm:
Also can somebody please explain the logic of a new level 15 quest-chain in which we currently have to run a level 16 chain to access?

You want logic from Turbine's dev team?

Lower your expectations.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #31 - May 7th, 2013 at 2:17pm
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Bigjunk wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:52pm:
An idea this dumb had to come from Feather.

Turbine wants us playing NEW stuff and I don't think they're happy about 80% of the toons at any given moment being under level 20.  This will fail like every other hare-brained idea they come up with as TRing is the end-game of DDO.

Also can somebody please explain the logic of a new level 15 quest-chain in which we currently have to run a level 16 chain to access?


If they give me another character slot for each one of their prerolled characters they want me to use, I will gladly use them. As mules if nothing else.

  

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Reply #32 - May 7th, 2013 at 7:17pm
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Schmoe wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
The description doesn't even make sense.  It's supposed to be a passive feat (according to Varguille), but apparently it has some sort of stacking PRR with a 3-second duration and no indication of how to trigger or activate it.  It grants spells, but no means to cast them.  WTF?


The PRR is supposed to be granted when you are damaged with a slashing weapon.

The spells are supposed to be granted if you are a Paladin, and they worked just fine when I tried them.
  
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Reply #33 - May 7th, 2013 at 7:21pm
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Schmoe wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:18pm:
The description doesn't even make sense.  It's supposed to be a passive feat (according to Varguille), but apparently it has some sort of stacking PRR with a 3-second duration and no indication of how to trigger or activate it.  It grants spells, but no means to cast them.  WTF?


The 3 second duration is likely tied to it increasing the paladin aura abilities.
  
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Reply #34 - May 8th, 2013 at 5:41am
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Quickly ran through U18 quests last night. They appear to be a free quest chain a bit like the Lords of Dust one to get you flagged for Wheloon. Yup, have to run all your toons through to get it. PDK favour which I guess is nice. Only have level 15 available, no epic option right now.

Quests are snoresville. 1. Run around in a linear cave until you capture a bad guy, you have to pull a few levers. 2. Prevent some lizard men from releasing said guy, then run through some linear trees to beat up end Lizard guy shaman and rescue bad guy. 3, Visit bad guy in court, town gets attacked, run round convenient linear course made with burning houses, kill some shadows, then go back to the courthouse kill more shadows and kill some Shar worshipper or other.

I'd hazard a guess it was coded by the team that did Druid's Deep because it's equally awful.

Also something weird going on with saves - my friend'ls caooed PM occasionally had problems landing stuff on normal humans in a level 15 quest on normal. And the shadow things are immune to a ton of stuff. More lazy coding to add "challenge".

Bladeforged were a bit "what's the point", too.

If these are the free quests designed to sell the expansion, they do a bloody poor job of it.
  
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Reply #35 - May 8th, 2013 at 8:47am
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Terebinthia wrote on May 8th, 2013 at 5:41am:
Quickly ran through U18 quests last night. They appear to be a free quest chain a bit like the Lords of Dust one to get you flagged for Wheloon. Yup, have to run all your toons through to get it. PDK favour which I guess is nice. Only have level 15 available, no epic option right now.

Quests are snoresville. 1. Run around in a linear cave until you capture a bad guy, you have to pull a few levers. 2. Prevent some lizard men from releasing said guy, then run through some linear trees to beat up end Lizard guy shaman and rescue bad guy. 3, Visit bad guy in court, town gets attacked, run round convenient linear course made with burning houses, kill some shadows, then go back to the courthouse kill more shadows and kill some Shar worshipper or other.

I'd hazard a guess it was coded by the team that did Druid's Deep because it's equally awful.

Also something weird going on with saves - my friend'ls caooed PM occasionally had problems landing stuff on normal humans in a level 15 quest on normal. And the shadow things are immune to a ton of stuff. More lazy coding to add "challenge".

Bladeforged were a bit "what's the point", too.

If these are the free quests designed to sell the expansion, they do a bloody poor job of it.


Those quests sound like shit, but at least we have some more PDK favour finally...

Net immunities are still bull shit.....

Bladeforged sound sort of interesting, and I will roll one when they come on to live just because I have 7 free character slots and you may as well try the new stuff...
  

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Reply #36 - May 8th, 2013 at 9:28am
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I went through the whole shit this morning...

- The 3 Quests : ( I zerged through them wit'h a LVL 25 Ftr, Drone FvS 24 and Kitty so can't give an evaluation of difficult, chop chop)

- Run in a cave, there's a first part outside, quite short, but the scenery is amazing, too bad it lasts less than a minute. The quest is linear as hell, but no surprise here... just pull levers you'll get the the Boss in the end. ( that Boss is also amazing )

Too bad all the art went in the Boss and the external area art... the rest of the quest is lower than usual in quality

- Prevent Escapes ( pseudo protection partial - thingie )
  The twist could have been nice if it had been properly used, but using the prevent evasion thing the way it's used and then going through a linear ( one single path to follow ) quest is not great.

Once again, quality is lower than usual... paths in wood are small so that you can't sneak around, and there's various objectives you have to fill along the way to make sure you follow the pass and don't bypass any element.

- Last quest : again you're just driven through a single path, single option quest: just follow blindly the instructions, run where it's possible to run and kill everything along the way.
Note : the captain is not on top of the stairs.

Bladeforged ?
Yeah more Tin Cans Sad
Yeah some kind of Tin Can that will go all whiny when I'm going to tell it that it can go fuck itself when it comes to healing from my Clerics.
Yeah a Tin Can that will start at LVL 15 directly ( with one mandatory level of Paladin ) that cannot TR and will have no decent gear when out of the Manufactory.

All in all Bladeforged : Really ? Really ? you don't have better things to waste your time on than that ? It's not because you promised it 6 month ago that it has to be put in game... how many things were promised and dropped ?
  

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Reply #37 - May 8th, 2013 at 5:45pm
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They also broke Warchanters.  Can't take the Bravery III enhancement for tier II.  So, the only character I could import over thanks to the Feather_of_Sunned character copy is busted as well.
  

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Reply #38 - May 9th, 2013 at 1:10am
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So, is this iconic thing F2P or not? And if we are to buy can we start our TR toons at lvl 15?
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Reply #39 - May 9th, 2013 at 2:21am
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Reply #40 - May 9th, 2013 at 5:18am
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Hardcore_Girl wrote on May 9th, 2013 at 1:10am:
So, is this iconic thing F2P or not? And if we are to buy can we start our TR toons at lvl 15?


I suspect ( not sure ) that Bladeforged will be F2P... all the rest might be P2P though.

And from what I know you cannot TR in them and they cannot be TRed.
Oh and as a Bladeforged you have to take at least 1 Level of Paladin.
  

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Reply #41 - May 9th, 2013 at 5:59am
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What...  so, you can *never* TR that character?  Isn't that going to get old fast?  Or is this some precursor to the infrequently-mentioned "Epic TR" mechanism that's on the horizon?
  

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Reply #42 - May 9th, 2013 at 7:11am
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At least for now...

Right now on L-Space they can't be TRed.

That may change in the future though.... it's like having to run Desert Caravan once to reach Zawabi's... for a time it was mandatory, nowadays it's not.

  

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Reply #43 - May 9th, 2013 at 8:07am
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rest wrote on May 7th, 2013 at 12:21pm:
The only thing I gathered were that they were characters you could level to 15, but you can't do any sort of reincarnation on.

What a horribly stupid shitty awful idea.


I think it's actually level 15-28 that you can play them.

I suspect Turbine is really trying to push through cookie cutter toon's that have enhancements/feats given to them along a path that uninspired players will not deviate from. Looks like perhaps they are just mindless toons w/ zero customization for people who can't be bothered to figure out what they want there toons to do. If this is the case it's gonna really suck when 3 Halfling healers with the same specs join your LFG. I can see this real quickly turning into a game of boot the pre-made noob toons and LFG's w/ things like "No pre-made race/class combos."  Seems like this is going to be a massive fail. If you have a crappy pre-made toon that just sits at the level cap where is the motivation to spend TP's on things like bank slots or inventory slots? I don't really see how they will get much revenue out of these shitty toons. I guess they are inspired by all those shitty pen and paper pre-made wonders from back in the day. I have also heard these generic and uninspired pre-made race/class combo's will be part of the new ED path but not sure how accurate that actually is. Really dreading this pile of steaming "content" from what I have seen and heard so far. It's really, really odd to me that things have been so quiet about a expansion that is due out so soon. That my friends seems like a really, really bad red flag. They should be hyping this shit left and right and instead we still only pretty much know what the very vague announcement message said. The Japanese did as good a job of hyping the Pear Harbor attack before it happened as Turbine has done so far in hyping this expansion. I'm guessing they will both equally bomb....

Just another sign of the continued dumbing down of DDO. Before much longer casters will just get a new and improved magic missile spell every fourth level like every other shitty MMO....
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Reply #44 - May 9th, 2013 at 8:46am
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Darth Anonymous wrote on May 9th, 2013 at 8:07am:
I guess they are inspired by all those shitty pen and paper pre-made wonders from back in the day.


Depended on the game and the campaign... Most of the one I saw and played couldn't be built if you followed strictly the rules. ( trust me I tried to rebuild a lot of the premade-PCs and NPCs in the MERP adventures... and in most of the cases I just couldn't rebuild them as good as they were, And I'm not even talking about the Dragonlance Gimps... They broke so many ADD rules that it was a joke...  )
  

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Reply #45 - May 9th, 2013 at 10:35am
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Darth Anonymous wrote on May 9th, 2013 at 8:07am:
I think it's actually level 15-28 that you can play them.


I'm sorry you must have misunderstood me. I should have put "..that you can level INSTANTLY to level 15.."


I can see how it's hard to understand what I put.
  
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Reply #46 - May 9th, 2013 at 1:07pm
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Bladeforged are the new and improved bank mules.
  
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Reply #47 - May 14th, 2013 at 10:25pm
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Carpone wrote on May 9th, 2013 at 1:07pm:
Bladeforged are the new and improved bank mules.



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