Milton wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2014 at 4:59am:

Doesn't that same question/problem apply to every MMO? And isn't it answered the same way every time? (Classes hopefully have enough variation to make it fun on a second/third/nth pass).

Any way you look at it, repeating once per char still beats DDO's "run through the game 36+ times per char" model.

Strakeln wrote on Jun 4^th, 2014 at 11:27am:



This.

I have a 30 Esper ive leveled almost exclusively in pvp and a 19 engi from a mix of everything.

God the housing is so bad ass.

Strakeln wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:



Damn it... How am I supposed to stay away from this game with talk like this?

Also, when is the WS board coming to Vault?

skitz wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

YES. Overwhelmingly YES.

Strakeln wrote on Jun 9^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:



Agreed.  Like you said in another post the depth is amazing.

Is there shuriken throwing in Wildstar?

I bought it. Lets see how it is.

FakeStrake wrote on Jun 24^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

I'm totally with you on the monthly sub thing... ever since DDO went F2P (and they did it best, IMO, though I don't doubt they've found a way to fuck it up by now), I've been very leery of the monthly payment model. For one thing, I'm not really sure what that monthly fee is buying, especially when I paid for the game up front. Server access? Pfft... at the MMO scale, the per-person cost is miniscule and can be absorbed by the up front cost. As evidence, I point you towards battle.net and the many years I spent there playing Starcraft I and II.

So that leaves content. $15/month is 1/4 of the standard $60/game price. So I'd better be seeing a quarter of a game's worth of content, every month, to justify monthly fee...

...or, you had better provide a reasonable alternative.

I did not think CREDD would be a reasonable alternative, at least for me - I don't play games enough to keep up with inflation, so I figured I'd never be able to afford CREDD... but the game was enjoyable enough that I got over my monthly sub hangup.

Then something strange happened. This game is very different from other MMOs in that they appear to be fine with the idea that there are multiple ways to make in-game money. In Wildstar, you can make money the traditional ways - killing mobs, selling rare drops on the auction, cornering markets, etc. But you can also make money in a way that has traditionally been made impossible: by crafting.

There are many recipes in game that result in prices where the completed product is worth more (vendor price) than the combined prices of the ingredients. And since there is a vibrant mats market (the commodities exchange, CX for short), this enables one to take a small profit margin and scale it up to sizable earnings.

Then there's the open interface, which is simply mind boggling. This open interface allows for addons to do things that would be considered hacks in any other game. In relation to this discussion, one of my favorite addons is Hephestus (spelling probably wrong), which allows me to batch craft... and parallel craft (10x faster).

As a result, I now have 4 CREDD to my name. The way I figure, another month of devoting 1/5th of my playtime to making money through crafting and CX market cornerning and I should have my full first year paid for.

Strakeln wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 10:28am:

Yep. Playing a Chua Esper. I havent slept in like 18 hours. Can't put it down. Been PvPing for the past probably 8 hours. PM me to add me on friends if you want btw.

Yes but have you guys found out about the Wildstar DDO link? The _e_ge_....

You thought the DDO dev link was coincidental?

How can Bazinga be ahead of you guys? Truly?

1/5th of playtime set aside to making money.

Considering its a new game and has that shine, and new addiction high, what's a good estimate of playtime or hours you are putting in daily/weekly?

Trying to get an idea on 20%

FakeStrake wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 7:44pm:

I play about 3-4 hours a night, 5-6 nights a week. So, what's that, 3-5 hours a week for moneymaking?

By the time the first month is out, I'll be about 6 CREDD in. I didn't figure out this economic stuff until week 2, so that'll be 4 weeks one month after launch. So 12-20 hours of auto-crafting while alt-tabbed out to pay for the game for six months.