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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	14% drop in WoW playerbase May 10^th, 2013 at 4:07am	Print Post
	1.3million players - 14% of the playerbase - left WoW in the first quarter of this year. I don't so much care about the fact that they left, I just wanna know where they ended up, so I can avoid it...

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Azog Ex Member	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #1 - May 10^th, 2013 at 4:29am	Print Post
	So it is possible to know what happens with WoW but not with DDO suscribers. Is that different policies from turdbine / Blizzard or is there something that I am missing?


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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #2 - May 10^th, 2013 at 6:32am	Print Post
	Activision Blizzard made the announcement in the first 2013 quarterly report to investors, and WoW is big money for them; online game subscriptions made up 21% of AB's net revenue for the first quarter (although of course WoW is only part of that).� They mention significant changes in subscriber numbers because it has a significant impact on revenue and is therefore something they're beholden to tell investors. By contrast, Turbine is such a small subsidiary of WB that it gets only the briefest mention in WB's 2012 Annual Report, with the only product release mentioned by name being the Riders of Rohan expansion for LotRO.� Bear in mind that WB - itself just a division of Time Warner - posted first-quarter revenues of $2.7 BILLION.� Time Warner > Warner Bros. > WB Home Entertainment > WB Interactive Entertainment > Turbine: that's how far down the give-a-shit scale DDO subscriber numbers live� Frankly, you could asplodify the good ship Turbine and all who sail in her and it wouldn't amount to a rounding error on WB's books.�

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Azog Ex Member	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #3 - May 10^th, 2013 at 6:54am	Print Post
	Very good explained, thanks.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #4 - May 10^th, 2013 at 7:41am	Print Post
	Consider that WB bought Turbine with pocket money just because they ( Turbine ) had the MMO license for Middle Earth, and they wanted to integrate it with all the other licenses they ( WB ) had around Middle Earth. DDo just came with the Bride.

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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #5 - May 10^th, 2013 at 9:50am	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 6:32am: Activision Blizzard made the announcement in the first 2013 quarterly report to investors, and WoW is big money for them; online game subscriptions made up 21% of AB's net revenue for the first quarter (although of course WoW is only part of that).� They mention significant changes in subscriber numbers because it has a significant impact on revenue and is therefore something they're beholden to tell investors. By contrast, Turbine is such a small subsidiary of WB that it gets only the briefest mention in WB's 2012 Annual Report, with the only product release mentioned by name being the Riders of Rohan expansion for LotRO.� Bear in mind that WB - itself just a division of Time Warner - posted first-quarter revenues of $2.7 BILLION.� Time Warner > Warner Bros. > WB Home Entertainment > WB Interactive Entertainment > Turbine: that's how far down the give-a-shit scale DDO subscriber numbers live� Frankly, you could asplodify the good ship Turbine and all who sail in her and it wouldn't amount to a rounding error on WB's books.� Also, before they were bought by WB, they were private, so no need to share the info


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Felgor Shroud Slacker Offline Go Fuck Yourself Posts: 1011 Joined: Jun 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #6 - May 10^th, 2013 at 10:18am	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 6:32am: Activision Blizzard made the announcement in the first 2013 quarterly report to investors, and WoW is big money for them; online game subscriptions made up 21% of AB's net revenue for the first quarter (although of course WoW is only part of that).� They mention significant changes in subscriber numbers because it has a significant impact on revenue and is therefore something they're beholden to tell investors. By contrast, Turbine is such a small subsidiary of WB that it gets only the briefest mention in WB's 2012 Annual Report, with the only product release mentioned by name being the Riders of Rohan expansion for LotRO.� Bear in mind that WB - itself just a division of Time Warner - posted first-quarter revenues of $2.7 BILLION.� Time Warner > Warner Bros. > WB Home Entertainment > WB Interactive Entertainment > Turbine: that's how far down the give-a-shit scale DDO subscriber numbers live� Frankly, you could asplodify the good ship Turbine and all who sail in her and it wouldn't amount to a rounding error on WB's books.� I think TW just see Turbine as a source of revenue with no reason to invest further. Just wring what is already in place dry.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #7 - May 10^th, 2013 at 10:28am	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 10:18am: I think TW just see Turbine as a source of revenue with no reason to invest further. Just wring what is already in place dry. Possibly, although I honestly doubt it. They've undoubtedly invested significant sums on further development and on expanding the franchise to include Faerun. For an organisation of WB's size, having somewhere to dump a little cash to amortize profits can be a blessing even if they don't care enough about it to see that it makes money.

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #8 - May 10^th, 2013 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Lookit you with your fancy made up money words Mr. Fancymouth. amortize lol.omg.
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Grace Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 5851 Joined: Aug 4^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #9 - May 10^th, 2013 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	Stupid socialist European education.

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Gawna Ex Member	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #10 - May 10^th, 2013 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 12:22pm: Lookit you with your fancy made up money words Mr. Fancymouth. amortize lol.omg. Meat crib?


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Flint Stormreaver Piker Offline I'm a Halfling on the EDGE! Posts: 567 Location: New Jersey or Armpit of the US Joined: Jul 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #11 - May 10^th, 2013 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	Maybe they went to Diablo 3 to exploit the gold loop?


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #12 - May 10^th, 2013 at 2:43pm	Print Post
	Persiflage wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 4:07am: 1.3million players - 14% of the playerbase - left WoW in the first quarter of this year.� I don't so much care about the fact that they left, I just wanna know where they ended up, so I can avoid it... They apparently added Kung Fu Pandas. If that's not a "jump the shark" moment, I'm not sure what is. Add in that the subscriber model is pretty dead, it's not that surprising.


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Maxwell Edison Bailiff Offline HADOUKEN! Posts: 3142 Location: Bologna Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #13 - May 10^th, 2013 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	The Pandas are like making cows a playable class in Diablo. Don't make no damn sense.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #14 - May 11^th, 2013 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Maxwell Edison wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 12:22pm: Lookit you with your fancy made up money words Mr. Fancymouth. Look, it's simple. If you don't have a 'coon skin to make your hat from, but Buck does, you can give him some of these shiny tokens which are like a promise that you'll... Ah, fuckit. I'll explain it to you in game if I ever see your ignorant ass in there again

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #15 - May 11^th, 2013 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	Grace wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 12:31pm: Stupid socialist European education. Not at all. It's a direct consequence of working for years and years in environments where people say shit like that without wincing. It gets to you after a while... It's kind of like osmosis, except that the semi-permeable membrane is whatever regulates your vocabulary, and instead of water it's pure distilled evil.

	stainer wrote on May 16^th, 2013 at 9:26am: Oh you are good. I will be watching you. QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5^th, 2013 at 11:11am: You are an evil human being.� m4lacka wrote on Mar 29^th, 2014 at 7:04am: wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Dark_Helmet Wielder of the Schwartz Offline I hate you! Posts: 1176 Joined: Feb 14^th, 2010	Re: 14% drop in WoW playerbase Reply #16 - May 16^th, 2013 at 1:46am	Print Post
	Felgor wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 10:18am: I think TW just see Turbine as a source of revenue with no reason to invest further. Just wring what is already in place dry. They just wanted the intellectual property. They can also reform it as a loss-leader and put some cash in there to keep their intellectual brand going while writing it off. But, that would require a flush of staff as Turbites are not good at promoting good vibrations with the customers and word of mouth; Turbites are just looking at bottom line and their own ego while ignoring the customer.


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