Pretty confused right now why Henshin Mystic has these, anyone can explain it to me in simple terms why monks would want these apart from boosting Shiradi ?

Edit - Nevermind, i see it - i just don't quite believe it.

�ed wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 8:51am:


henshin abilities

i would love to see a Henshin Mystic build oriented not caster splash or just staff build, but one that try to archive to whole potential of the prestige ;p

They needed shiradi wizards to be even more powerful.   

Totally OP for no reason.

Asheras wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 10:01am:


Agreed.  I would have liked to see more actual combat maneouvers; offensive and defensive, active and passive.  Some sort of paralyzing strike, a "throw" trip equivalent, a short-term enemy-evading tumble thing like Unearthly Reactions, maybe a speed boost like Fighters get.  More passive enhancements to unarmed damage, or perhaps some sort of cleaving stun or daze effect similar to the Acrobat's AoE trip attack.  Reward higher monk levels by building on core abilities; nothing too drastic, just stuff like a few seconds of displacement after an Abundant Step, or some sort of minimum-12-levels scaling to the incorporeality from Shadow Veil.

Henshin could have granted more mystical stuff like Power Word or Symbol equivalents (I'm thinking of the Chinese traditions of magic with symbols scribed on rice paper here), maybe DDoor or even charm abilities.  As it is, it's a bit of a mess.  I've never liked the feel of Ninja Spy very much, even in PnP, and there's a lot of garbage in all three trees.  I also can't shake the feeling that what's driving a lot of the enhancements is a "we can't fix handwraps so how about we encourage them to use weapons?" approach to things, which is just sad-making.   

Persiflage wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 10:21am:


I'd bet 5 bucks this is the answer you're looking for.

Persiflage wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 11:08am:


This is the kind of stuff Henshin should have had.  No doubt.  That'd be bad ass cool.  Weapon based ki attacks that do AoE and/or damage. 

Not this stupid quasi-caster crap that really doesn't do shit unless you are multi-classing in lots of caster levels.

Ckorik wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 10:30am:


ki bolt and incinerating wave (core 2 and 3 respectively) have a force dmg component.
I actually doubt force spell power affects void strike.

So many cool fighting games and anime for inspiration....

Reh...pu...ken.

Ckorik wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 10:30am:


I like to see this based off Wisdom instead.  We already have enough DEX to whatever PrE abilities.  Also, they should have included an enhancement to mimic the Sudden Willow Strike ability from P&P.  (Use your Stunning Fist stats thru a quarterstaff.)

LafoMamone wrote on Sep 24^th, 2013 at 4:40pm:


"Terrific, a six-demon bag. Sen-sational. What's in it, Egg?

"Wind!  Fire!  All that kind of thing!"

spathic wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:


Yes, this, very much this.