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I think the new loot sucks
Sep 28th, 2013 at 7:54am
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For me, loot is what draws me to the game.  Now, all the loot is the same.

How do you make the game last?  You need to attract new players to replace those that leave.

How can a new player possibly equip themselves with this junk?

When was the last time you found a pure seeker item?
When was the last time you found a pure accuracy item?
When was the last time you found a pure deadly item?
When was the last time you found a pure dodge item?
When was the last time you found a pure fortified item?

EVERY DAY.

Seriously, a new player does not need any of that junk.  I am on a new server and I don't use any of it.  I deconstruct all level 7 jewelry and clothing items that do not help my characteristics(Strength, Constitution, etc) or my armor class.


Answer these questions

For me, these items actually helped me in the game.

When was the last time you found a pure UW action item?
When was the last time you found a pure Disabling item?
When was the last time you found a pure Escape item?
When was the last time you found a pure Minute Seeing item?
When was the last time you found a pure haggle item?
When was the last time you found a pure springing item?
When was the last time you saw a Heroism Clickie?
When was the last time you saw a Remove (Disease, Curse, Blindness, Fear) Clickie?
When was the last time you saw a lesser restoration clickie?

There is a preponderance of Feather Fall and wizardry items though.



All armor is the exact same.  RETRIBUTIVE
All weapons are the exact same  RIPOSTE, DECEPTION, GHOST BANE, RAPID STRIKE, RAPID SHOT

You want a +5 weapon for a level 8?  Those don't exist anymore.
You want +5 armor for a level 8?  That does not exist anymore.

There must be a lot of undead because all the bane weapons now are GHOST BANE. 
Just check the weapon brokers and the armor brokers to see the lack of variety in the game.

No other BANE weapons exist.

Do you like rapid strike and rapid shot?  Great, every 100 swings they might happen.  Don't let the word RAPID fool you.  It actually is supposed to be the word RARELY.

Casters are still happy because the corrosion, combustion, devotion, etc items still exist.

In my opinion rogue and artificers are screwed.
Fighter types are screwed.
  
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Re: I think the new loot sucks
Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 8:15am
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Agreed.  The random loot isn't worth even looking at.
  
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Choir here.

Preach thattaway --->
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 2:53pm
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Agreed, the new loot is so fubar it hurts my soul. 

Some attributes are way too fucking common, while other desired attributes are way too rare. 

Also, to specifically rant about caster sticks: MATCH THE GOD DAMN LORE TO THE SPELL POWER TYPE.  I don't fucking thaumaturgy stick with combustion/glaciation of lightning lore.  GOD FUCKING DAMNIT.
  
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i was shocked to learn that turbine had someone in house capable of producing items i hate more than feather_of_shit items.
  
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Re: I think the new loot sucks
Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 5:53pm
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Nothing new, F_o_S has had a year to Feather of Sun all the loot.

Note that plain stat items, plain UW items or FF items or plain +5 weapons have been on the phase out for a long time, and F_o_S just finished them with the shitty loot.

  

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If they had ADDED these new attributes to the existing list, it would have been totally fine.  I don't understand why they had to remove everything else that has been in game for years.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 7:44pm
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Asheras wrote on Sep 28th, 2013 at 7:15pm:
If they had ADDED these new attributes to the existing list, it would have been totally fine.

ROFLMAO!!!!
 
Asheras wrote on Sep 28th, 2013 at 7:15pm:
I don't understand why they had to remove everything else that has been in game for years.

Because I'm damned good at my job, duh!!!!


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Don't worry! FoS confirmed that it's just another half-implemented, rushed-to-ship system that'll be finished later.

Turbine has a great track record of actually finishing those too! Right? ... Right?  Guys?
  
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Re: I think the new loot sucks
Reply #10 - Sep 28th, 2013 at 11:31pm
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There's less variety in lootgen now than there is types of bodies in victoria's secret ads.
  

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Any Questions?
  

A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule.

Disavowed wrote on Apr 19th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

Artorias wrote on Feb 10th, 2016 at 2:15pm:
Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 9:35am
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I don't think you're seeing the big picture here; I'm feeling a whole bunch of "wish I'd been careful what I wished for" right now.  Did I wish for a scrofulous pile of steaming turds for loot?  I did not.

Did I wish for Cannith Crafting to be made relevant again?  I did.

Has the scrofulous pile of steaming loot-turdiness meant that I've resorted to Cannith Crafting for levelling gear, even though the system desperately needs updating with new recipes?  Why yes...  Yes, it has.   Angry
  

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Persiflage wrote on Sep 29th, 2013 at 9:35am:
I don't think you're seeing the big picture here; I'm feeling a whole bunch of "wish I'd been careful what I wished for" right now.  Did I wish for a scrofulous pile of steaming turds for loot?  I did not.

Did I wish for Cannith Crafting to be made relevant again?  I did.

Has the scrofulous pile of steaming loot-turdiness meant that I've resorted to Cannith Crafting for levelling gear, even though the system desperately needs updating with new recipes?  Why yes...  Yes, it has.   Angry


Noone has ever wished for a revamp of Random loot gen. It was fine after MotU with the cool Meteoric, Thousands sun etc.

All we just wanted, every single time, was for a better-but-not-by-much named items from the newer quests. Not a jump from +8 stat to +11 or from +5 damage to +11.

But it's Feather, he knows better, right? "People love random gen loot" *facepalm*
  
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Shuy wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 5:37am:
Noone has ever wished for a revamp of Random loot gen. It was fine after MotU with the cool Meteoric, Thousands sun etc.

All we just wanted, every single time, was for a better-but-not-by-much named items from the newer quests. Not a jump from +8 stat to +11 or from +5 damage to +11.

But it's Feather, he knows better, right? "People love random gen loot" *facepalm*


I quite agree; I just can't help but feel somewhere deep down that wishing for Cannith Crafting to become relevant again has led to unintended consequences by screwing up random loot instead of improving the crafting system.  Not that I believe FoS actually listens to anyone...  he's like the Monkey's Paw of game designers.
  

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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Reply #15 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:23am
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Feather really did kill this game didn't he? 

We're not all just piling one because beating on hipsters is fun, right?
  
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:23am:
Feather really did kill this game didn't he? 

We're not all just piling one because beating on hipsters is fun, right?


Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a goddam minute.  You mean... we need reasons now?  And anyway, why is that an "or" question? 

Feather may or may not have killed (aspects of) the game.  Beating on hipsters is definitely fun.  The two are not in any way mutually exclusive.  Cool
  

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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Reply #17 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 11:48am
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Bigjunk wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 10:23am:
We're not all just piling one because beating on hipsters is fun, right?

EVERY time I see a hipster I roll my eyes. Rolling my eyes is one of my all-time favorite pastimes!
  

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Arkat wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 11:48am:
Rolling my eyes is one of my all-time favorite pastimes!


You've been taking lessons from Gunga, haven't you?
  

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NOTdarth wrote on Sep 30th, 2013 at 3:14pm:
You've been taking lessons from Gunga, haven't you?

I'm the best!  Roll Eyes
  

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