Report all of the broken ladder locations and then work as a personal assistant to FoS for 2 weeks. Oh fuck never mind the second parts to fucking painful for anyone.

Quak wrote on Oct 12^th, 2013 at 1:50pm:


Any company that publishes that information intentionally about its customers would be sued to high heavens by the customers who's information it published, the credit card companies and I'm sure various USA state/government entities. 

higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 6:23am:



You have no idea... In Froggy Land it's not would, it's WILL, and it's going to be Froggy Lands against Turbine. ( for what it's worth )

According to French Law I have the following rights when it comes to data concerning me :
- Access and modification at will of each and any data [ Turbine is already violating that with the Credit Card that can't be removed except by phone calls ].
- Turbine cannot sell or transfer to anybody any information concerning me without my consent.
   ( You have no idea what a mess it created when we transferred from Codemasters... because of that as it's part of the EU laws, not just Frog )
- I can ask at any time for a full copy of the data they have on me, and they have to give it. ( yes that means that if they don't want to disclose the full set of data I can just sue them, and fuck up the EULA/TOS  )
- I can ask at any time to have all the data concerning me to be deleted. [ Yes that really include ALL the fucking data, accounts, characters, everything. And they have to give me proof they have done it if I ask ]

That's just LAW here. And I even have an online form to fill if I want to be an ass.

The holder of the data has one main thing : Confidentiality of data.

higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 6:23am:


for those who do not live in the united states. Yes, not only would the client have the right to sue but they could also seek legal action from their credit card or bank if they so wanted. Also Turbine/WB would be looking at being attacked With legal action by the credit card/banks as well.
In the US you can sue for pretty much anything. Winning on the other hand is diffrent. But if you have money to throw at a good lawer, then you can screw over turbine... but you would be up against Warner Brothers lawyers and money. It would be a long fight, but giving away personal information without consent is illigal. 

So I highly doubt Turbine or WB would be foolish enough to ever do anything like that.

higgildypiggildy wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 6:23am:

Relentless wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 8:55am:


Have you tried running ddo off a ssd or even a flash drive? I have heard a pylotro program will also fix that issue by preloading turbines horrible dat files.

I'm just waiting for the howling maelstrom that will occur when they delete player's 'legit' items who 'hardly duped at all.'

Arkat wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:


My point was that their attempt at punishment isn't particularly threatening.  What they want to do is nothing anyone prepared can't quickly compensate for. 

I've complete confidence that not only will they screw up the job but it will be left with results ranging from accidentally adding inventory to a bug that auto-deletes any items that stack in your bank.  That part was never in question.  The only real threat is how incompetent the devs and admins will be at doing the job.

Arkat wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 3:36pm:


I kind of thought that was exactly what Tolero said they were going to do.  If they only take your ill-gotten gains, then it's not actually a punishment at all.  It's only removing the things that you wouldn't have had without the exploit.

And really, anyone who did exploit and loses all of their stuff (even to the point of being buck naked and penniless) will be able to get back pretty damn close to everything that they had in less than a month.  And everyone who actually exploits on a regular basis will be able to exploit something else in the next year that will put them back over the top again without fear of punishment because the early exploiters have never been caught (and probably never will be).

NOTpopejubal wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:33pm:


WB...  Hope you have been doing well...

Glenalth wrote on Oct 14^th, 2013 at 1:20am:


Yep. Even plat capped, with 10.000s Stacks of everything.

HairyO wrote on Oct 13^th, 2013 at 9:24pm:


They are doing it manually. At least the banning part. They have scripts to detect suspicious accounts and then a GM handle the banning itself. At least according to what we know. They don't want a fucked up SQL query going AWOL in the database banning everybody and the dog like it happened in Maban.

note to Asheras : That's also why I suspect Turbine doesn't have a real SQL DBA if they could fuck up such a single query, they have no clue.