17/2/1

druid / monk / wiz.

Munkenmo wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 4:09pm:


Hrm...the 2 monk I'm guessing is for stunning blow/evasion along with the force/fire stuff from Henshin? I'm guessing you're going with invis SLA as well on the wizard end? Magic missile would be kind of meh with only 1 wizard level but invis on demand would be pretty snazzy as an added bonus along with the extra spell points, spell crit, and spell power to go with the extra feat.

Hrm...sounds like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too which I actually like here.  How's this feat list sound for a human male?

Max, Emp, Heighten (Wiz@Char. Level 4), PL: Wizard, PA (Monk1), Cleave, Great Cleave, Stunning Fist (Monk2), TWF, iTWF, and gTWF? That misses out on Adept and Master of forms but gets the full TWF line. Alternatively I could pick up Quicken (which allows me to take Wiz at Char. Level 2 which gives me the invis earlier), drop the TWF line, and pick up Adept and Master of Forms. Added bonus for this build is if I pick up a Staff of the Seer I can use that without wasting my investment in the TWF line.

No real benefit for Heighten? I looked at the spell list and kind of waffled a bit - Call Lightning (Storm) and Flame Strike look like the only big ones to benefit from Heightening in any appreciable way.

btw that feat list is for my epic focused build, for a heroic pastlife, grab the second monk level earlier.

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I'll rephrase it.  In my experience, I've had no issues at all landing earthquakes without heighten on any content/difficulty.

of note : i've got 3sorc and 1 wiz life to help bolster my DC's.

I think you'd enjoy 9\9\2 druid\monk\fighter. I personally loved it, leveled very quickly. Of course just bank at 18 and take more druid levels over monk levels. Caster druid in heroic just isn't the same as a wiz\sorc\divine class imo...


Wouldn't a fighter level be better than a wizard level in EE? Pick up more tactics, haste boost, still get a feat. 


Also, not to hijack your tread dark... but when running a caster druid in shiradi, what's your rotation with spells looking like before you start meleeing?

tachyon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 7:44pm:


And that's what I'm really debating...I do have both a charisma and an int con-opp kama with +6 str on both as well as a nice kicker, a litII short sword (which with 1 point in ninja spy would work for wolf form), I think I could make the melee build work as well. Looking at the feat list with a 10 druid/6 monk/2 fighter at level 18 (the 2 fighter makes it work so 9/9/2 is out) I got the following:
1 Druid 1 PA/Clv
2 Druid 2
3 Druid 3 DMark
4 Monk 1 TWF
5 Druid 4
6 Druid 5
7 Druid 6 GClv
8 Druid 7
9 Druid 8 iTWF
10 Druid 9
11 Monk 2 Stunning Fist (easily switch 10 and 11 based on my mood)
12 Fighter 1 Natural Fighting, iCrit
13 Druid 10
14 Monk 3
15 Fighter Natural Fighting, gTWF
16 Monk 4
17 Monk 5
18 Monk 6 Natural Fighting, Whatever Monk Feat (last natural fighting could also be Master of Forms)

I'm really unsure which way I want to go. Love casting, loved this build (played it for 7 lives on my current AA), tough call.

tachyon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2013 at 10:58pm:


I was under the impression it was still working. If it wasn't then I'd probably go with some sort of a hybrid version of what I posted there - Max, Emp, PL: Wiz, Quicken in place of the 4 feats you mentioned would allow for everything in the build I listed. In addition, there's not a ton of benefit from those last 4 monk levels - 1 martial arts feat I don't really need, 2% dodge, 0.5[w], and 10% run speed at 18 (the last part is really the only compelling part for me). 14/2/2 or 13/3/2 could both work at 18 and make for level 7 druid spells - I just didn't bother if I wasn't going to pick up the meta's to make them more effective.

Don't get me wrong, I love pastlifenmo.

But also, I love watching shit burn. Playing in heroic levels with fire elemental form, body of sun, firewall, firestorm and fires of purity makes me happy.

That's a personal choice, Both are valid splits.
I also only had 3ap to spare in the wizard or fighter tree.

With Wiz it's an easier allocation of skill points, prot evil as a spell
AM grants:
ability to cast Invis / protection from evil
1% chance to crit all offensive spells
+3 spell power
+6 sp
Invisibility as a spell

Fighter is +6hp, but half ranks in all my good skills.
Kensai :
+1 to hit unarmed
+ 2ranks in hasteboost

Spell crit chance ended up being the winner for me.

Shiradi spell rotation before going off and meleeing?