harharharhar wrote on Nov 21
st, 2013 at 12:04pm:
Bromeo:
Also, cut all those numbers for 10K in Half because it's only active 50% of the time, in aggregate.
IE you might have an 81% Chance to throw an extra 1 shuriken for 10k, but you only get it 50% of the time which is effectively 40.5%. You're already behind anything over 40 Dex. And since Dex procs extra shuriken DURING 10k, you're always ahead pumping Dex.
The math is easy. 1 wisdom gives you 1.5% chance to throw another shuriken during 10K. Dex gives you 2%. Going with more Dex is ALWAYS BETTER. Now, if you can Max dex, and secondarily Max your wisdom without affecting your dex, then that of course of the best. But if you ever have to choose Wisdom over Dex for this build, you are doing less DPS going Wisdom, including Water vs Air Stance.
I'm sorry if you don't like that but it's true because of how powerful Shuriken Expertise stacked with Advanced Ninja Training is.
So if you want me to cut everything in half, you only get 33% chance at the first and 8% chance at the second. Not helping yourself there. 10k shots are not independant too, you need to succeed the first one to get a chance at the second. So lowering the wis dramatically affects 10k.
In the end, it's one throw. That throw can get 5 more shots added to it. One from expertise, one from ninja, one from 10k-1, one from 10k-2, one from 10k-3. Those additionnal throws do not interact with each others, as in you don't get 10k procs on an additionnal expertise shuriken.
Honestly feels like there's wouldn't be much difference between both of them on the extra shot side in the long run.
Now, sure it would be a little more DPS, +5 per hit.I never said it would not be, I said I was satisfied with my stat split. I'm sure all the sneak attack damage I deal easily makes up against that +5 damage. Running ocean also gives me the ki gen to keep veil/10k running, since I don't have the monk cap for that. +5 to all saves is also good to have.