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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:16am	Print Post
	Goal: Compare Endgame Wraps for DPS Entries: 1. Fully Upgrade Antipodes + Subterfuge Planar Focus [Antis] 2. EH Adamantine Knuckles with all three slots filled with sov Augs (shock, acid, frost) [Addys] 3. EE Thunder and Lightning [T&L] 4. t3 Alchems (Air, Water, Acid) [Alchem] Test: EE Sobrien Beatdown using stunning fist and madstone boots. Spam dark monk fists+finisher, stun, and imp sunder. Time based on buff bar.T&L Results Trial 1: [Antis] 1:36 [T&L] 1:15 [Addy] 1:35 [Alchem] TBA

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #1 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:43am	Print Post
	It depends a little on your gearsrt (ie doublestrike & reinforced fists) But EE T&L > Antipode > addy knuckles > alchemicals.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #2 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:46am	Print Post
	Btw, fwiw, I prefer tier 3 water, its a will save, not a reflex save, much better dps vs evasion.

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:09am	Print Post
	Why not slot 3x neg level augments in the addy knuckles? Trash killaaaaaaa


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #4 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:09am: Why not slot 3x neg level augments in the addy knuckles? Trash killaaaaaaa I did that for Arkat...just doesn't proc enough for my tastes. Will have to try EE T&L though.

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Tobril Honourary Australian Offline Hi Welcome Posts: 744 Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #5 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 3:51pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:09am: Why not slot 3x neg level augments in the addy knuckles? Trash killaaaaaaa Unless you open a door. Or use a scroll. Or sneeze. Fucking adamantine knuckles "deslot" themselves too often to be of much use.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #6 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 4:23pm	Print Post
	So don't do those things!


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Realism51 Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 74 Joined: Mar 14^th, 2014	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #7 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 1:38am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:43am: It depends a little on your gearsrt (ie doublestrike & reinforced fists) But EE T&L > Antipode > addy knuckles > alchemicals. agree - does have a lot to do about your doublestrike but not so much on reinforced fist since its affects all wraps. I would say best way to test is with 0 doublestrike and no offhand strikes and no two weapon fighting.


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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #8 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:18am	Print Post
	Realism51 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 1:38am: agree - does have a lot to do about your doublestrike but not so much on reinforced fist since its affects all wraps. I would say best way to test is with 0 doublestrike and no offhand strikes and no two weapon fighting. Doing this though would basically give the 6% doublestrike more "weight" since if one person had say 90% off-hand chance, then that 6% doublestrike would no longer be a 6% DPS increase since it only affects your mainhand. In fact if you have 90% off-hand it'd nearly be a 3% dps increase which isnt that great. (3% DPS increase would be if you had 100% chance of an offhand attack)

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #9 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	Realism51 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 1:38am: but not so much on reinforced fist since its affects all wraps Reinforced fists only effects all wraps if you're getting the bonus from a non-handwrap slot. For a forged character, that's fairly unlikely.

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Realism51 Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 74 Joined: Mar 14^th, 2014	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #10 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 2:57pm	Print Post
	Good point, forgot about the 6% on podes


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #11 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 2:44pm: Reinforced fists only effects all wraps if you're getting the bonus from a non-handwrap slot. For a forged character, that's fairly unlikely. You're welcome!�

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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #12 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Has anyone checked out the new wraps yet?


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #13 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	It'll be a while before I can compare these. But I'm looking at the math here.. Looking at avg dmg: Thunder and Lightning: Base 11.25+20sonic+20elec= 51.25 avg per hand per hit Thunderforged: Base 20.25+35(touchofflames)+25(wrathofflames)+36(mortalfear)=116.25 avg per hand per hit That's pretty significant... To be fair, that's going straight damage and relying on no fire resist/immunity. But that's still a lot more dmg than the previous toptier wraps.
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	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #14 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Unfortunately, it's Fire damage.

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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #15 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 7:59pm: Unfortunately, it's Fire damage. There are other options that still end up better than T&L

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #16 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 12:28am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:09am: Why not slot 3x neg level augments in the addy knuckles? Trash killaaaaaaa Enervation throwerr. Add Life stealing thrower cos y not. procs negs like nothing else. Dont even need augments. I usually stay with antipode for 15prr.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3489 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #17 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 12:39am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 12:28am: Enervation throwerr. Add Life stealing thrower cos y not. procs negs like nothing else. Dont even need augments. I usually stay with antipode for 15prr. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehheheehheehehehehehehe throwers, my favorite type of cheese <3


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #18 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 9:53am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 12:28am: Enervation throwerr. Add Life stealing thrower cos y not.� procs negs like nothing else. Dont even need augments. I usually stay with antipode for 15prr.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #19 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 12:28am: Enervation throwerr. Add Life stealing thrower cos y not.� procs negs like nothing else. Dont even need augments. I usually stay with antipode for 15prr. A lot of the new stuff wasn't working, makes me happy at least that one works


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #20 - Mar 19^th, 2014 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Mar 19^th, 2014 at 7:00pm: A lot of the new stuff wasn't working, makes me happy at least that one works� Needs a blue border if it's new.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Monk Wrap DPS Comparison Reply #21 - Mar 20^th, 2014 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Here's a random derailing question from me, that might have been mentioned before. Henshin mystic, light the candle, is it bugged? I was yesterday doing fire damage even when uncentered, and I checked my weapon and arrows, no fire on them. I mean, it was crappy 1-2p of fire, but still fire damage from seemingly no where.


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