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17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:22am
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Dear Vaulties,

I have recently finished acquiring the last sorc life I needed for this Druid build. x1 Wiz, x3 Sorc PLs atm.

The goal of the build is to get CC,DPS and Party Heals(sometimes). No melee or stunning fist, though.

I am looking at starting stats of 8,8,16,16,18,8 with level ups in wisdom.

Wisdom is a main stat, Int as 2ndary for spellcraft, ins.reflexes and extra sp from Wiz.
So, my questions are mostly regarding the feat selection.
1) Is it worth getting monk stances all the way to Grandmaster?
2) Is it worth getting x3 mental toughness feats to maximise sp pool and x% crit chance?
3) Which of the following metamagics are a must have on this build: Maximize, Empower, Quicken, Heighten, Empower Healing?

If someone has a build just like this, can you post your feats and enhancements too?



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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:34am
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IMO:

Standard Feats (in order of importance):
EVO focus
Wiz pastlife
quicken
Greater evo focus
Mental toughness
Heighten
Improved mental toughness

Human bonus feat
maximize

Monk bonus feats
Dodge
Deflect arrows

Wiz feat
empower

Epic Feats
21 Epic Spell focus
24 Epic Mental Toughness
27 Epic Toughness

ED feats
26 Toughness
28 Forced Escape

If you really want insightful reflexes I'd ditch Epic Toughness for it.
  

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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:48am
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Munkenmo wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:34am:
IMO:

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So, ignore monk stance upgrades.
Looks perfect, imho.
Thx Munk...Oops...I meant Hendrik  Wink
  

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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #3 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:30am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:48am:
So, ignore monk stance upgrades.


Im not a big fan of heighten on druids, so you could drop that for adept, but you dont get a wis bump till master of forms.

Heighten could also be a feat you swap for insightful reflexes.
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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #4 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 3:38am
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Munkenmo wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:30am:
Im not a big fan of heighten on druids, so you could drop that for adept, but you dont get a wis bump till master of forms.

Heighten could also be a feat you swap for insightful reflexes.


Its +1 dc to earthquake though, isn't it?
What other worthwhile Spells/SLAs are affected by heighten?
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 4:35am
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Yeah it is +1 to earthquake. Last time I played, 1 extra earthquake dc was irrelevant on my build, I doubt that's changed already.

I personally don't think any other druid spells should be heightened.
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:07am
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Reply #7 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:47pm
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I feel like you're losing out by ignoring melee. It's easy to pick up, and it opens up gmof for you. With already super high wisdom, you'll have literally infinite CC between drifting lotus/ein and Earthquake.

I found it very hard to effectively kill things quickly on my druid without burning through mana like a fiend, so the extra CC worked out was perfectly fine for me. When I didn't really want to melee, I played in Shiradi.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:54pm
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My druid had like 80ish (I know someone with 90 dc, ddo these days..)  eq dc with debuffs, it was one of the lives that I had real fun. But killing part is the boring one. If you wont go shiradi at least take energy burst. I went magister for dc debuffs and other cool evoc stuff and twisted dc from draconic, burst and reflex save or another tier 1 save.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 12:56pm
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tekel bayi wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:54pm:
My druid had like 80ish (I know someone with 90 dc, ddo these days..)  eq dc with debuffs, it was one of the lives that I had real fun. But killing part is the boring one. If you wont go shiradi at least take energy burst. I went magister for dc debuffs and other cool evoc stuff and twisted dc from draconic, burst and reflex save or another tier 1 save.



Why would you go magister? You don't get WIS out of there. You can effectively twist the useful things in there while being in a WIS destiny as well.
  
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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 8:28am
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tachyon wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:47pm:
I feel like you're losing out by ignoring melee. It's easy to pick up, and it opens up gmof for you. With already super high wisdom, you'll have literally infinite CC between drifting lotus/ein and Earthquake.


Agreed entirely.  This is what I'm doing on my main; I'm just going around a couple more times for another sorc and a couple of fighter PL's right now, but a Druid in GMoF that melees as well rocks out... and you don't have to give up anything to do it  Smiley
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 8:39am
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Persiflage wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 8:28am:
Agreed entirely.  This is what I'm doing on my main; I'm just going around a couple more times for another sorc and a couple of fighter PL's right now, but a Druid in GMoF that melees as well rocks out... and you don't have to give up anything to do it  Smiley


I already have more than enough Monks with GMoF, and all my other characters are melee. So, this one I want to be at least slightly different  Cheesy
  

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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 10:54am
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Alex DeLarge wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 8:39am:
I already have more than enough Monks with GMoF, and all my other characters are melee. So, this one I want to be at least slightly different  Cheesy


If you really want to be different, and want real DPS, consider this:

17\3 druid\monk.  Take about 4-5 ranged feats for shurikens. Play in Shiradi full time. Dropping 10k isn't a problem, because you can get decent doubleshot and you already have whirling wrists\ninja spy\shuriken expertise. A guildie of mine plays a 17\3 cleric monk just like this and he is a freaking beast. Shurikens + Blade barrier kiting. Even without 10k he just mows through mobs... soloed EE wgu on his build too. It's really the only reason why I can advocate for this route.

Druid will work too except you can probably do less kiting due to earthquake. Eventually going to LR into this, can't wait.
  
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Re: 17 drd/2mnk/1wiz Human Evoker build
Reply #13 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 1:01pm
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shhh on Druid shuriken.

PS: 15Wiz/3Monk/2FvS is a nice Shuriken splash too (Shiradi) Smiley

Though 12/6/2 is probably better. 10K is too powerful to skip on. Doubleshot only makes 10k builds stronger, since it increases DPS when 10k is on timer.
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:22pm
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I'm too lazy to melee on my 17/2/1. I just go shiradi and call it good.

Except I am currently working my way through the last 11 destiny levels for twists. I just bring friends to beat up everything, or chug pots.
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:03am
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rest wrote on Mar 24th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
I'm too lazy to melee on my 17/2/1. I just go shiradi and call it good.

Except I am currently working my way through the last 11 destiny levels for twists. I just bring friends to beat up everything, or chug pots.


So, what the fuck do I do with the Season's Herald enhancements? Can you post me a SS with spent AP on it, please?
Thank you in advance...
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:39am
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Whilst I'm more melee orientated, I don't see the point in investing much further in Seasons Herald.

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Reply #17 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:44am
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Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:39am:
Whilst I'm more melee orientated, I don't see the point in investing much further in Seasons Herald.

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hmm, interesting. Thx Munk.
That skin looks interesting though, what is it?
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:56am
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Rons character planner, I've just cropped the enhancements.
  

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Reply #19 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 8:45am
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Munkenmo wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:56am:
Rons character planner, I've just cropped the enhancements.


can you link me it?
  
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