Hello esteemed Vaulties,

If i were to build for max ac, PRR, and intim, what would be your suggestions for it (taking into account twists, races, etc).

There seems like some interesting things in Dwarf, but on second glance it is all pretty minor (1-2ac).

Thanks!

NOTdarth wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:27am:

Or just play in traffic. We need to keep as many accounts as possible at this point.

This may be a surprise for you but this advice actually isn't a troll post. It is a solid piece of advice for everyone trying to make that sort of a build (Meat, I'm looking at you).

I am running around with 100ish PRR and AC at the moment. It is very nice, not really any problem killing 3 EE mobs at once.

I was really looking for advice on how to optimise an AC build taking into account all of the races and how (often) things do not work as the descriptions say.

NOTdarth wrote on Mar 10^th, 2014 at 10:41am:



That's hurtful sir.


No, I finally learned my lesson. I did the tank thing for a while. It's ok.. until you run a quest with other people. then you get frustrated because you killed like 1 mob accidentally in the whole quest..


But actually, IF you take a tank into EEs, you can serve in a role. Gather mobs, intim, lets everyone else kill em off you. You serve as damage mitigation.

Problem is, it's unnecessary in many quests.

It's all very depressing really.

Tanks would be useful again when the goal isn't to kill things as quickly as possible. I have the most geared up bank toon ever and I don't have the heart to make him a non-tank so he will stay there until it's viable to actually wear armour again.

The diminishing returns for astronomical PRR is really what hurts you.

Besides which, LOL TANK. You'd be better off bringing a repeater rogue in a party.

Getting back on track, i now think that Halfling would probably offer the most in terms of survivability solely from a dodge point of view.

3 dodge in racial tree and stacking 5 dodge from attacks.

Thoughts / discuss ?

Don't really see anything else interesting out there. Social graces offer no survivability.

Bladeforged 10% slash reduction would be only 80 on an 800hp hit.

I think that perhaps you guys have something in your heads that isn't real. At no point did i say that i wanted to make a tank. I asked for advice on maxing defensive stats, such as AC, PRR, and of course intim.

There surely is somewhere a max intim breakdown, but i can't find it.

I have the obvious answers already, what i am looking for are particular instances where things do not work as intended or tricks that aren't obvious.

Races seem to offer not much at all. Defensively i think that Halfling offers the most with dodge. Dwarf offers about 5ac (with shield) and con to weapons but frankly i don't want to go that deep in a racial tree.

I would have thought that having as much AC/PRR/Dodge as possible without gimping DPS would be an obvious direction to go in with the state of the game as it is.

�ed wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:


With Munk's comment in mind, an 8\6\6 fighter paladin monk would work well. Great DPS when blitzing, can hit dodge cap easily, and can get over 90 PRR for sure. No idea about AC.

Munkenmo wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 3:12pm:


What he said.

Tobril wanted to remake his tank not too long ago and we came up with something like...10ftr/6monk/4pal I think?

Centered kensai with Cleaver, points in stalwart for defenses, half-elf for double intim, paladin for threat thing at level 3 and the turns at 4 for divine might? Can't remember all the specifics since he was actually putting it together and I was just giving ideas.

In the end was something like 100+ PRR, enough intim for anything, evasion, good saves, massive threat gen, max dodge, incorp from shadow fade and some decent DPS.

rest wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:


It takes 8 fighter to be centred.

rest wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

No


Munkenmo wrote on Mar 11^th, 2014 at 6:26pm:

Yes