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Prepare for the balance nerf
Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:19pm
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https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/439018-Player-Character-Balance?p=5301...

'What’s specific items do players consider overpowered?
Major caveat: Anything considered overpowered by some is also loved by others. We’re aware of this. Anything on this list is also NOT automatically going to be nerfed or changed in any particular way, but these are things we may take a closer look at. There’s quite a few other possibilities we might look at, but these were near the top of the list for discussions.
• Ranged Fury of the Wild
• Monks using 10K Stars and manyshot (monkchers)
• Bladeforged Reconstruct'

Brace yourselves. Winter is coming.... again.
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Reply #1 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:22pm
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Unless they feel like they've milked the Bladeforged Reconstruct for as much as they can, I doubt they will nerf it yet.  There are still people shelling out cash just for that specific ability.

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Reply #2 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:29pm
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Just more of the never ending cycle...
  

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Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:42pm
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I read the entire post and I'm less pessamiatic than usual.  It seems like they've waded through the extensive derp that thhey were handed and actually picked out some interesting and reasonable conclusions.

1) ranged isn't favored because of furyshot.  it's favored because standing still while EE melee enemies pound on you is a bad idea
2) it's easy to fuck things  up and we don't want them to fuck things up.
3) most stuff is okay even if people whine about it. Synergy isn't a curse word.r
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:46pm
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Domosan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:22pm:
Unless they feel like they've milked the Bladeforged Reconstruct for as much as they can, I doubt they will nerf it yet.  There are still people shelling out cash just for that specific ability.

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Reply #5 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:51pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:42pm:
I read the entire post and I'm less pessamiatic than usual.  It seems like they've waded through the extensive derp that thhey were handed and actually picked out some interesting and reasonable conclusions.

1) ranged isn't favored because of furyshot.  it's favored because standing still while EE melee enemies pound on you is a bad idea
2) it's easy to fuck things  up and we don't want them to fuck things up.
3) most stuff is okay even if people whine about it. Synergy isn't a curse word.r


They weren't handed a derp .. they created one. Both in the way they've made the current endgame and in the posting of that thread.

I'm not opposed to voicing my opinion in it but the level of fuckwittery going on in that thread is mind boggling (even by vault standards)

On a separate note .... yes Varg's ability to cut through the bullshit is somewhat enlightening. Doesn't mean I trust any of the devs further than I can throw Jerry though.
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Reply #6 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:55pm
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I'm not going to quote Wazoo's post because phone but I do mostly agree with it.  And there is a lot of design derp - I just meant that they didn't appear to drown in the derp in that thread.  Which they should be able to avoid in a reasonable world, but it's Turbine so my expectations were super low.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:59pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:55pm:
I'm not going to quote Wazoo's post because phone but I do mostly agree with it.  And there is a lot of design derp - I just meant that they didn't appear to drown in the derp in that thread.  Which they should be able to avoid in a reasonable world, but it's Turbine so my expectations were super low.


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Reply #8 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:04pm
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RIP bladeforged melee
  
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Wonder what the new Wonderboy build will be in three months.
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:14pm
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Glad I didn't take the trouble to level my monkcher all the way to the top...
  
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Legato wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:14pm:
Glad I didn't take the trouble to level my monkcher all the way to the top...

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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:22pm
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Looks and sounds like there just gonna nerf the cool builds, give us some lame new shield enhancment and then tell everyone " Barbs, Bards and Pallys are all balanced out now"

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Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:45pm
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Does diz mean we gonna see more skilled players or less skilled players??
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rest wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:53pm:
James Blunt fan on the Vault? Never thought I'd see the day.


Actually, I cheated... A friend of mine would repeat that from time to time for no reason, really. And  I just saw this as an appropriate time to use it.  Grin
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Bones wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 8:58pm:
Actually, I cheated... A Friend of mine would repeat that from time to time for no reason, really. And  I just saw this as an appropriate time to use it.  Grin

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Sooo uhh... When you make your first Vaultie cry, is there like some kind of uh.. Initiation Ceremony, or something?
  

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Reply #19 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:11pm
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if we go by turbines history on listening to the folks on the ddo boards, I'm gonna say that they will ignore all good advice and then tweak the balance issue so that you have to use shards or tp(they are nice like that) to fix your balance issue
  

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Bones wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:06pm:
Sooo uhh... When you make your first Vaultie cry, is there like some kind of uh.. Initiation Ceremony, or something?


They're smiley face tears, it doesn't count.
  
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rest wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:19pm:
They're smiley face tears, it doesn't count.


I tried.  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #22 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 9:41pm
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What a surprise... 1 week after iconics were on sale they tell us they might nerf at least one of them?

Most people who were really interested in the bladeforged reconstruct should have it now...

That they even think about taking features from a class you had to buy with real money and many players probably mainly bought because of that feature(s).
It's like if Porsche would exchange the engine at your first maintenance with the engine of a small town/city car and they tell you the original engine was too powerful...

Do we really have to explain Turbine, that they are f2p since several years and it's a big difference if you nerf a class in an MMO with a monthly fee and nerfing a class people bought with real many because of their superior skills/enhancements/whatever?

But if these 3 things are their main focus for their character balancing then it is going to be as disappointing as the enhancement pass was for my bard. -.-
And hell... they should better stop it and work on bug fixing, since we don't need senseless and half assed 'balancing' nerfs.

I'd like the idea that healing divines are usefull again, but bladeforged are not the reason that many players self heal now. The stacking heal amp and cocoon were pretty decent self heal already.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:02pm
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If they remove Reconstruct from Bladeforged or nerf it too hard, I will quit DDO.

Seriously, I will say goodbye to a game I have enjoyed for over 8 years.

Doubt I will ever play another MMO. If I change my mind and do wind up playing another MMO, it sure as hell won't be LotRO or Infinite Crisis.
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Reply #24 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 10:03pm
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They should sell a new Iconic race with the Heal spell SLA for 11 AP and all would be fine.
  

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