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Eternal Flask of FOM
Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:32am
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Does this thing work properly?

When I use it, I get the 'Running Man' symbol above my
char's head but the FoM icon is not applied to my buff bar
and I can still get danced.  I'm assuming the nerf'ed FoM
spell protects from dance?

Any equipment (apart from obvious; Magestar/JC/PLIS/Mantle)
that might be blocking?
Any Enhancement/ED abilites that might block this - I'm
a Drow in Draconic hence this doesn't seem too likely.
Any chance it's a sneaky mod to the item when it was
created with recycled materials?  Wink

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Reply #1 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:39am
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FoM doesn't stop dance.
What's your build? Are you an air savant? Air savants are immune to most knockdown effects, and therefore the FoM icon will not show up on your buff bar. Same thing as acrobats with the "kip up" ability.
Are you wearing spiky boots?
Wielding a sireth?
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Reply #2 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:53am
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Are you wearing the Rock boots from Cannith Challenge?
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:59am
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:39am:
FoM doesn't stop dance.


FOM always like this? - I've played robots for years; TR'ed to
Drow for a max. DC build.  Is it just anti Hold Person/Monster now?

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What's your build? Are you an air savant? Air savants are immune to most knockdown effects, and therefore the FoM icon will not show up on your buff bar. Same thing as acrobats with the "kip up" ability.


Yes, Air Savant so probably this.  I normally go into Elemental form when worried about being held - didn't like
the -3 CL penalty for other elements though.

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Are you wearing spiky boots?
Wielding a sireth?


No Delvers, no Sireth but I am wearing Rock Boots.

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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:05pm
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Reply #5 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:13pm
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Rock boots it is. Maybe it's the immunity to slippery surfaces that suppresses the FoM icon in your buff bar, and not knockdown immunity. I know it's one or the other.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:15pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:39am:
FoM doesn't stop dance.
What's your build? Are you an air savant? Air savants are immune to most knockdown effects, and therefore the FoM icon will not show up on your buff bar. Same thing as acrobats with the "kip up" ability.
Are you wearing spiky boots?
Wielding a sireth?


FoM does appear on the buff bar even if you're playing an air savant. FoM protects you against web while knockdown immunity does not; they stack.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:33pm
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Hmm, logged on this morning and it's gone.
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:35pm
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FoM does not protect you against web. Or at least not all webs.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:38pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:35pm:
FoM does not protect you against web. Or at least not all webs.



I don't get webbed in WGU with FoM.
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:41pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:35pm:
FoM does not protect you against web. Or at least not all webs.


It does. It does not protect you against entangle tho, which is different.
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Reply #11 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:41pm
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Well I don't recall there being spiders in wgu.
  
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Sasha wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:41pm:
It does. It does not protect you againts entangle tho, which is different.


Find some spiders.
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:49pm
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Fom protects from the Web spell, but not from "physical" webs spiders throw at you like throwing weapons.
It has never protected from dance (but some chocolate bugs from the store do!), and has been nerfed not to prevent earthgrab and some webs anymore.
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 1:34pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:35pm:
FoM does not protect you against web. Or at least not all webs.


Fire Shield Hot protects against Webs, though.  I don't know if Fire Shield Cold does or if the various Draconic "fire shield" equivalents do.  I'd say that I'll test that to find out for sure, but I know I'm not going to actually test it.
  
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Reply #15 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 1:36pm
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Jeff_Stryker wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 11:59am:
FOM always like this? - I've played robots for years; TR'ed to
Drow for a max. DC build.  Is it just anti Hold Person/Monster now?



FoM not doing anything against disco balls/dance spells isn't new.  I do know that Pale Master undead forms protected against dancing, but I don't know if it does after the enhancement pass.  My Pale Master turned into a Sorc and I haven't gotten around to TRing him again.  Probably won't TR him for a long time now, too.
  
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Reply #16 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:25pm
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NOTpopejubal wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 1:34pm:
Fire Shield Hot protects against Webs, though.  I don't know if Fire Shield Cold does or if the various Draconic "fire shield" equivalents do.  I'd say that I'll test that to find out for sure, but I know I'm not going to actually test it.


Fire shield hot does protect from web, but not for the entire time fire shield is active on your buff bar. When they extended the duration of the spell they didn't extend all the properties, namely the web-proof portion.

Good ol Turbine.
  
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Reply #17 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:27pm
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Sasha wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:41pm:
It does. It does not protect you against entangle tho, which is different.


not the webs those driders cast in underdark
  

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Reply #18 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 3:41pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:13pm:
Rock boots it is. Maybe it's the immunity to slippery surfaces that suppresses the FoM icon in your buff bar, and not knockdown immunity. I know it's one or the other.

Ahhhhhhhh.  Explains why it never worked until I TRed.
  

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Reply #19 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:34pm
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This is such a silly manner but since I've done a lot of testing about this in CiTW back in the day, I'm pretty sure this is right. FoM protects against Web, the spell which is always casted on the ground, it does not, however, protect you against Entangle, which is an ability that looks like a thrown web but it is not the actual spell, this is the ranged ability some spiders have (examples are driders and bebeliths). You can tell the difference between entangle and web in the combat log; also, when you walk over a Web with FoM, you can see the FoM icon over your head telling you that you're immune, while everytime you get Entangled, you can see a saves roll meaning that you are not immune even with FoM.
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:38pm
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Reply #21 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:40pm
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What was the last time you could throw a web to someone by casting the level 2 spell?

Also, since it is obvious that you are not the test by yourself type of player, at least read the wiki, it's not hard.
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 29th, 2014 at 10:18pm
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Sasha wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:40pm:
What was the last time you could throw a web to someone by casting the level 2 spell?

Also, since it is obvious that you are not the test by yourself type of player, at least read the wiki, it's not hard.


That used to be a good way to learn things.  Not so much anymore.   Cry
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 30th, 2014 at 5:59am
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:25pm:
Fire shield hot does protect from web, but not for the entire time fire shield is active on your buff bar. When they extended the duration of the spell they didn't extend all the properties, namely the web-proof portion.

Good ol Turbine.

Oh how I laughed when I found this out in epic ADQ1 back in the day. "Aha, stupid drow scorpions! You cannotohfuck"
  
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Reply #24 - Apr 30th, 2014 at 2:22pm
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rest wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:25pm:
Fire shield hot does protect from web, but not for the entire time fire shield is active on your buff bar. When they extended the duration of the spell they didn't extend all the properties, namely the web-proof portion.

Good ol Turbine.


oh wow. i use fire shield as protection from webs frequently, never noticed that it didnt protect from webs at the end.
  

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