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Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Aug 3rd, 2014 at 8:13pm
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This is my proposed gear set up for my int based completionist shiradi sorc.  Although it's INT based without maxed CHA, I'm still going to care about DC's through energy burst and hellball.  Also, I only have +5 tomes.  With +6, I'd probably try to fit in litany.   Feedback welcome. 





Head: +3 blue dragon insightful int (green and yellow slots)
Neck: Mystic eidelon (green slot)
Trinket: Greensteel 1
Goggles: clever 10 spellsight 20
Cloak: prismatic resistance 10 (green slot) - swap for different element absorbs
Belt: Health 10 dodge 10%
1st ring: Lantern ring (green slot, colorless slot)
2nd ring: Sage's Ring (yellow slot)
Gloves: greensteel 2
Boots: Orcish Privateer's Boots. (colorless slot)
Bracers: +6 str / superior parrying (yellow slot)
Armor: Flawless blue dragon (blue slot)

1st weapon: Thunderforged kama - Impulse 150 dwarvencraft lore (purple, orange and colorless slots)
2nd weapon: Thunderforged kama - Fire 150, spell focus evocation, fire lore. (orange and colorless slots)

Greensteels:
Greensteel, conc opp SP - cha skills 6, int skills 4, diplo 10.
Green steel, balance of land and sky HP - stacking +3 all saves, str skills 6, con skills 4, dex skills 2, balance 11

Slots:
green - good luck +2
yellow - fear immunity
green - +2 evocation DC
green - +16 PRR
green - +100 fortification
colorless - globe of true imperial blood
yellow - 250 wizardry
colorless - vitality
yellow - [[empty]]
blue - false life 40
colorless - +15 perform
colorless - +8 dex

purple - sonic spellpower
orange - meridian fragment
orange - electric

stats:
Global modifier: +2 ship, +2 completionist, +5 tomes, +1 globe = +10
STR base 8 + 6 item + 10 = 24
DEX base 10 + 8 item + 4 insightful + 10  = 32
CON base 18 + 10 item + 4 insightful + 10 = 42
INT base 18 + 7 level ups + 10 item + 3 insightful + 10 = 48
WIS base 8 + 8 item + 10 = 26
CHA base 12 + 8 item + 10 = 30
  
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 1:54am
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Green steel trinket?
Guess the item listed in goggles slot goes there?
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 2:28am
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Shiradis need gear?
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 3:57am
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WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO A COMPLETIONIST TOON?!??!?!!
  

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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
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NOTdarth wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 3:57am:
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO A COMPLETIONIST TOON?!??!?!!


Better question: Why play an Int-based sorceror with the perform skill?
  

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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #5 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 7:50am
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AtomicMew wrote on Aug 3rd, 2014 at 8:13pm:
int based completionist shiradi sorc



In all seriousness, though, your setup is all over the place. For starters, if you're going to sacrifice slots and wear blue scale for spellpower, you may as well carry a Libram of Silver Magic, too (instead of whatever you want from your stance). You'd be better off wearing any number of things (Ring of Master Artifice and Guardian's Ring spring to mind) over a Sage's Ring in almost any setup. Parrying in the bracers slot is fine, but a paltry +6 Str and an empty yellow slot aren't doing you any favors. The best advice I can give you if you're determined to go through with this is to ransack Wheloon (double) end rewards on your toons and see if anything useful turns up. Some of the gear you have slotted seems as though it's just there to take up space.

Oh, and Five: the perform augment is most likely for the sonic spellpower.
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #6 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 10:12am
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All shiradi needs is spell power and critical. Everything else is gravy.
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 11:06am
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Of course that's all it "needs," but that's no reason to ignore conveniences. Slotting bad items on a shiradi spammer would be tantamount to wasting a completionist toon.
  
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2014 at 2:56pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 5:06am:
Better question: Why play an Int-based sorceror with the perform skill?


That has obvious answers.  Spellcraft is INT based.  Perform is for Audience with the Queen.

I have no idea why anyone would bastardize a completionist like this, though.  A first life toon would have 99% of the effectiveness of this hideous mutt.
  

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I agree with 0bama...


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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 10:36am
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First of all just gonna say I've seen you play and it's my genuine opinion that in the hands of a skillful player (such as yourself) a draconic sorc blows shiradi out of the water.

Regarding what people have already said:
PERFORM: is for sonic spell power (important for one of hellball elements, one of core shiradi procs and for getting a bunch of harpies as groupies)

SAGE RING: A very good item to give you 92 potency, only 8 less then what a TF tier one gives you but you need tier 1 for your master damage type. Shiradi's in particular and anyone using hellball need a potency item, this fits nicely.

Regarding your build:
1)Consider swapping 6 cha skills and 4 int skills for 6 int skills and 4 cha skills. You'll have high enough umd for whatever you need in any case.

2) Hellball as opposed to it's description has no save, energy burst does however.

3) Libram of silver magic is pure win! You want to slot it. Consider the following gear swap:
Out -
1) Goggles (+10 int, 20 spell craft)
2) Current TF weapons.

In -
1) Sage spectacles (132 fire sp, 18% fire crit, 9 int (irrelevant), colorless slot.
2) Libram of silver magic (exceptional sp, crit chance, 20 spell craft, 11 int, 11 cha, orange aug for meridian)
3) TF 150 impulse sp , 22% kinetic lore. Tier 2 is a multichoise, you can go for an extra orange slot so you can slot that electric you wanted or +6 evocation.

I'd go for the slot since evocation really doesn't help you much at all. You can go for sage necklace as well and slot insight dex,con two in your now 2 free colorless slots if you like.

For hellball other elements you fall back to your blue dragon 9% crit chance. Greater spell lore... How nostalgic


  
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 2:21pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 2:56pm:
Perform is for Audience with the Queen.


*bzzzz*  Try again.
  
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #11 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 3:56pm
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Shadehater wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 2:21pm:
*bzzzz*  Try again.


Fine.  I made a mistake.
  

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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:14pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 3:56pm:
Fine.  I made a mistake.

Your parents made one too.
  

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Reply #13 - Aug 6th, 2014 at 6:55pm
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Can some link to a full shiradi sorc build?  A good one?
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2014 at 8:04pm
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 10:36am:
First of all just gonna say I've seen you play and it's my genuine opinion that in the hands of a skillful player (such as yourself) a draconic sorc blows shiradi out of the water.

Thanks.  I tend to disagree, and I think it's more of a personal choice.  Between hellball and energy burst with high DC, I don't feel any problems blowing up groups of mobs.  But shiradi has way higher single target DPS and also SP efficiency if I really wanted to.  There's also a ton of built in survivability due to being able to deep splash with little drawback. 

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2) Hellball as opposed to it's description has no save, energy burst does however.

From some testing in the PvP a while ago, it actually does have a save (and half damage).  However, it is immune to evasion. 

edit: I actually made a post about it here: http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1390552769/0#0

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3) Libram of silver magic is pure win! You want to slot it. Consider the following gear swap:
Out -
1) Goggles (+10 int, 20 spell craft)
2) Current TF weapons.

I would slot it, but I'm on a monk splash.  Probably should have put that info at the top. 
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Reply #15 - Aug 6th, 2014 at 8:08pm
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Limpgimp wrote on Aug 4th, 2014 at 1:54am:
Green steel trinket?
Guess the item listed in goggles slot goes there?

Yep, forgot about that.  Unfortunately, I don't see any good trinket options besides litany (which would put me at all odd stats).  Perhaps idol of fortune?
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 9:10am
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No doubt shiradi works great for you (what's your current build btw?). I guess for soloing you prefer BF and high saves (sp isn't an issue anymore) and it is a matter of taste. Regarding aoe and single target damage lets agree to disagree.

I don't have access to the post you linked but I take your word for it and stand corrected regarding hell ball.

Considering you are centered your gear setup seems fine.
Idol of fortune really is a good trinket for you.
Getting +6 exceptional int skills gs item is probably the only thing i'd suggest along with a diamond of perform for your spare colorless slot but those are very minor details.

I'd say don't forget your spell augmentation potions and CoV universal sp pot but I know you're a meta player so not gonna bother  Wink
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 10th, 2014 at 9:09pm
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NOTdarth wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
Your parents made one too.


You can back up off my dick now.  Your lame attempts to suck cock bore me.  Find another way to put your tongue to use.
  

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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #18 - Aug 11th, 2014 at 2:32am
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AtomicMew wrote on Aug 6th, 2014 at 8:08pm:
Yep, forgot about that.  Unfortunately, I don't see any good trinket options besides litany (which would put me at all odd stats).  Perhaps idol of fortune? 


You have dodge, fort is easy to slot, so idol would be just +3 GL

Manual of stealthy pilfering from HH has +3 GL, 6 int skills, 6 dex skills, 5 UMD and green slot

Random gen trinket would also be an option, but those are pretty rare and getting one which suits your needs will be a pain I guess.
  
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Reply #19 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:31pm
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Here is the build I put together: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447048-Epic-Completionist-Shiradi-Sorc...

Thanks for the suggestions!
  
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Reply #20 - Aug 16th, 2014 at 10:04pm
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Hey wow interesting.

But I noticed you only posted those three toons of yours on Khyber, what about Al, and all the rest of your worker bees?

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Reply #22 - Aug 17th, 2014 at 4:22am
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AtomicMew wrote on Aug 16th, 2014 at 7:31pm:
Here is the build I put together: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/447048-Epic-Completionist-Shiradi-Sorc...

Thanks for the suggestions!


Nice post!
Could you please elaborate what your sp score is for force and the different elements? (and if that includes the 25 cov turn in pot, vendor pots, abishai cookies, supreme pot, int Yugo pot).

Thx!
  
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Re: Gear setup for shiradi sorc (U21)
Reply #23 - Aug 19th, 2014 at 4:12pm
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GS land and sky is a stacking +3 saves on top of the usual save resistance bonuses?
  
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It should, it is exceptional.
  
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