I can tell you that the buff is applied to your shuriken.I have not spent enough time to test and see if it is actually applying.

What's really interesting is that (against the dojo kobalds) I actually seem to be critting on a 10, and I can't figure out why.

Kotc's light damage in cores is being applied to shurikens

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck




melee power

harharharhar wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 7:58pm:


That makes a min 2 thrower pretty sexy.

Munkenmo wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 10:53am:


yeah like said above, known thing. Its really fun on live right now. Will be even better with the pally buff


@HarHar, got a build yet planned? 14 Pally, 3 rogue 3 monk? would have to scroll tensers, but its fun on lama atm

harharharhar wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:42pm:


SD actually isnt broken. Well, it is, but its not. Its giving the proper +3 to dodge, but its giving it as +3 Enhancment and Feat. so it "stacks" No current fix intended as per Kookie.

It appears to be working. I skipped out on taking IC, used a normal on 20 only weapon. Was critting in the ranges that were appropriate with the spell. However, i wonder. Will Holy Sword be more dmg than Deadly? I ask, because you cant have both :c

Vendui wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:



Holy Sword
We wanted to discuss changes to the Holy Sword spell as part of our ongoing discussion of Paladins.

We have several goals with this spell:

~ Make Paladin spellcasting more valuable.
~ Make the spell valuable when the Paladin has high end gear.
~ Increase the effectiveness of the Paladin class.

The spell is being redesigned as follows.

Holy Sword
Evocation (Good spells)
Paladin 4
Components: Verbal, Somatic
Metamagic: Quicken
Range: Touch
Target: Self
Duration: 1 minute per caster level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No
Cooldown: 3 seconds

Channels holy power to increase the effectiveness of your equipped weapons. Weapons you currently are wielding gain an additional +2 holy bonus to enhancement value and +1[W]. The spell also gives a +1 Competent bonus to the threat range and critical weapon multiplier of the weapon.

It looks like threat multi isn't working for holy sword (in the latest lamma at least).  Given that, is there any reason to go 14 paladin? 

It is working.  The display is (as always) bugged

I did some testing on the immortal kobold


No holy sword:
non-crits:
10,7,9,9,9,9,10,9,9,9,9,9,10,7,9,7,7,9,10,9,9,9,9,10,9,10,9,9,9,10,7,9,9,9,9,9,9
,10,9,9,9,9,7,9,9,9,10,7,9,7,7,9,7,7,9,9,9,10,9,9,10,9,10,10,10,9,9,9,9,7,7,9,9,
7

mean = 8.81

crits:
33,31,33,33,34,34,36

mean = 33

Immortal kobold has some DR and the multiplier should be x2, so (8.81+ DR) x 2 ~ (33 + DR)

DR = 15 (probably)


With holy sword:

noncrits: 10,13,10,10,13,12,12,12,12,12,10,12,10,13,13,10,13,12,12,12,13,13,10,10,13,13,12
,12,12,10,12,10,13,12,12,13,13,10,10,10

mean = 11.65

crits:
39,40,40,40,39,40,37,36,39,40,39,39,37

mean = 38.85


multiplier = (38.85 + 15) / (11.65 + 15) ~ 2.02



Conclusion: holy sword multiplier does NOT work. 

Holy sword ups enhancement and adds +W, so of course you will be getting additional damage with it regardless of whether you crit.  But the thing I was testing was the multiplier, so I didn't really need to know anything about the base damage to do so.  I just need to know math and statistics.

If you want to know the parameters, it was just bladeforged path build + shuriken proficiency at level 18 + some random spelltouched shuriken. 

Also FYI, the crit threat range from holy sword is working.  But I'm fairly certain that without the multiplier, 14 paladin will not be worth it.